cabrela Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Hello I´m a bankfisherman and I´m looking for a texas rig rod, I mainly fish with a 1/8 - 3/16oz weight plus the plastic bait, sometimes due to the wind factor I go up to a 1/4oz weight. But we all try to cover all the angles and so I think, and if someday I need to use a 5/16 or even a 3/8oz? If I want to fish deeper or further (if this happens it would be very very very, very occasionally). I don´t fish in heavy cover, maybe sometimes in sparse cover.I´m looking to the GLX JWR casting rod line up and I don´t know if I will chosse the 852, the 853 or even the 854...is the 852 the right choice? Can the 853 cast a 1/8oz t-rig and handle a 3/8oz? Will the 854 load a 1/8oz as well?Since I´m a bankfisherman I think a 7´1" rod would be a good choice to improve casting distance, now I only need to choose the rod´s power...I´m leaning toward the 853, am I choosing right? And being so I think the main question is, does the 853´s tip loads well and can cast well a 1/8oz t-rig? What do you guys think?I´ve been searching and reading and still can´t figure it out which of them would be a better choice. Here where I live I can´t go to a shop and handle the rods and since there isn´t an industry standard and every manufacturer has their own concept of rod´s power and action (and I´m not familiar with G. Loomis´rods) I really don´t know what to choose. And also don´t want to wast money in something that isn´t what I´m looking for and need. Can you help me?Give me some input please and shed some light on this.Thanks.Regards. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 16, 2014 Super User Posted November 16, 2014 The JWR852C will be perfect. 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted November 16, 2014 Super User Posted November 16, 2014 I had the old version of the 803 and to me it was a magic wand but recently I broke in my car door and replaced it through the xpediter service. The new version is growing on me but it is a different animal. Personally I like the shorter length of the 803 for bank fishing. It is accurate and loads quickly, making long distance casts easy. I have paired it with a Chronarch 51e and occasionally a Core 101. Quote
John G Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 You need two different rods if you want to use an 1/8oz all the way to 3/8oz. Maybe 3 rods depending how big your plastic is with the 3/8oz. I have the NRX802C and I use to have the BCR802C and IMHO, there is no way you are fishing a 3/8oz bullet weight with these rods. If you stick to the 1/8 to 3/16oz, I would go with the 852. I have never used the 852 but I know that it will handle the lighter weights better than the 853. My guess is no, the 853GLX will not load properly with an 1/8oz weight. I don't even like how my NRX802 loads with an 1/8oz but it's definitly better than my NRX803. I originally tried a 1/8 finesse jig with trailer with my 802 and with FC, I did not like how it loaded and casted. A 3/16oz is much better. If I were going to use a 5/16 to 3/8oz weight, I am using my MBR844. I'll be honest with you, I prefer the old MBR Fast Action rods to to the BCR and NRX Extra Fast. I think a rod that you may want to consider is the great, old reliable, tried and true MBR843GLX. I have the IMX and it's just a fantastic rod. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted November 16, 2014 Super User Posted November 16, 2014 If you go with the NRX you are going to want the 853 IMO. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted November 16, 2014 Super User Posted November 16, 2014 I would go with the 853. 1/8oz with a decent sized worm or craw is going to be at least 3/16-1/4, the 3/8+plastic will be over 1/2. Casting long distances, the little bit of added power may be necessary to help get those hooks to stick em too. 1 Quote
cabrela Posted November 16, 2014 Author Posted November 16, 2014 Just would like to add that would´t be just 1/8oz, would be a 1/8oz weight plus a SK Rage Craw or a Baby Brush Hog or something like that... And does the 853 have a true lure rating? Does it load well with 3/16oz weight? Quote
cabrela Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 I had the old version of the 803 and to me it was a magic wand but recently I broke in my car door and replaced it through the xpediter service. The new version is growing on me but it is a different animal. Personally I like the shorter length of the 803 for bank fishing. It is accurate and loads quickly, making long distance casts easy. I have paired it with a Chronarch 51e and occasionally a Core 101. With your 803 could you cast easily a ptl craw d´oeuvre (or something like it) with a 1/8 - 3/16oz bullet weight? Quote
cabrela Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 The JWR852C will be perfect. Wouldn´t it be on the weak side with a heavier weight on it? Quote
cabrela Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 If you go with the NRX you are going to want the 853 IMO. I wish I could.... Quote
cabrela Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 You need two different rods if you want to use an 1/8oz all the way to 3/8oz. Maybe 3 rods depending how big your plastic is with the 3/8oz. I have the NRX802C and I use to have the BCR802C and IMHO, there is no way you are fishing a 3/8oz bullet weight with these rods. If you stick to the 1/8 to 3/16oz, I would go with the 852. I have never used the 852 but I know that it will handle the lighter weights better than the 853. My guess is no, the 853GLX will not load properly with an 1/8oz weight. I don't even like how my NRX802 loads with an 1/8oz but it's definitly better than my NRX803. I originally tried a 1/8 finesse jig with trailer with my 802 and with FC, I did not like how it loaded and casted. A 3/16oz is much better. If I were going to use a 5/16 to 3/8oz weight, I am using my MBR844. I'll be honest with you, I prefer the old MBR Fast Action rods to to the BCR and NRX Extra Fast. I think a rod that you may want to consider is the great, old reliable, tried and true MBR843GLX. I have the IMX and it's just a fantastic rod. But if you could go with only one of those (852/3/4), what would be your choice? ' Quote
John G Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 But if you could go with only one of those (852/3/4), what would be your choice? ' If you are going to fish the heavier weights that you mentioned, I would get the 853. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 18, 2014 Super User Posted November 18, 2014 Wouldn´t it be on the weak side with a heavier weight on it? From your original post: "I mainly fish with a 1/8 - 3/16oz weight plus the plastic bait". For those weight plus trailers the 852 is perfect. Quote
cabrela Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 From your original post: "I mainly fish with a 1/8 - 3/16oz weight plus the plastic bait". For those weight plus trailers the 852 is perfect. And with a 1/4 weight? Quote
cabrela Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 If you are going to fish the heavier weights that you mentioned, I would get the 853. I never went over 1/4oz, but I might one day, don´t know.... Quote
cabrela Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 Can anyone tell me if the 853 has a true lure rating? Does it load well with 3/16oz weight? I never fished with a ex-fast rod, that´s my concern... Quote
cabrela Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 Can anyone tell me if the 853 has a true lure rating? Does it load well with 3/16oz weight? I never fished with a ex-fast rod, that´s my concern... Because if it was to fish only with 1/8 - 3/16oz weights plus trailers I would go with the 852 (as RW suggested), but if the 853´s ex-fast tip loads well with a 3/16oz I would choose it because it would be a more versatile rod. I just don´t know how is the G. Loomis GLX ex-fast fast action...can you help me? Quote
John G Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Like I said in my earlier post, I like the Loomis fast actions better than the extra fast. If I was using a 3/16oz bullet weight with just a Trick Worm or a Rage Tail Craw, I am going to use my NRX802. I know of another member that told me that he uses his 802 with 1/4oz. I assume he meant 1/4oz plus the plastic. Anything heavier and he goes to the 803. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted November 19, 2014 Super User Posted November 19, 2014 With your 803 could you cast easily a ptl craw d´oeuvre (or something like it) with a 1/8 - 3/16oz bullet weight? Sure. I use a 1/8oz bullet weight with a Zoom Lizard all the time and never have an issue. I also through 4in and 5in senkos weightless with this rod and again no issues. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 21, 2014 Super User Posted November 21, 2014 Keep in mind a T-rig, with 1/8 oz bullet weight and 6"-7" worm weighs in excess of 14 oz. most 3/8 oz jigs with skirt and trailer exceeds 1/2 oz. 3 power fast action rod is minimum power and proper action for T-rigs or a jig rod. I would suggest the 853 for your application and use smaller diameter 10-12# FC line Tom 2 Quote
cabrela Posted November 21, 2014 Author Posted November 21, 2014 Keep in mind a T-rig, with 1/8 oz bullet weight and 6"-7" worm weighs in excess of 14 oz. most 3/8 oz jigs with skirt and trailer exceeds 1/2 oz. 3 power fast action rod is minimum power and proper action for T-rigs or a jig rod. I would suggest the 853 for your application and use smaller diameter 10-12# FC line Tom Thanks. I usually use 0.30mm line (going up max. 0.32mm and dow to 0.28mm) Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted November 21, 2014 Super User Posted November 21, 2014 Keep in mind a T-rig, with 1/8 oz bullet weight and 6"-7" worm weighs in excess of 14 oz. Tom 14 oz. Those worms must be as big around as a pepperoni. Sorry Tom, I couldn't resist...lol. Hootie Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 21, 2014 Super User Posted November 21, 2014 14 oz. Those worms must be as big around as a pepperoni. Sorry Tom, I couldn't resist...lol. Hootie What's a missing slash between friends. 2 Quote
cabrela Posted November 22, 2014 Author Posted November 22, 2014 What's a missing slash between friends. Quote
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