Super User F14A-B Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 During the 80's Woo Dave's use to flip with a Zebco 808
Super User A-Jay Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 For me, it's all about the journey and the eventual destination. Â While I'm on it, whatever I can use that makes that pleasant & successful, I'm going with. Â But I will say that when I'm posing with a Super Beast, I'm not really thinking about the tackle anymore. Â A-Jay 3
Josh Smith Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I can get easily 15 to 20 yds. on a cast, but seldom ever cast that far. I am a shoreline fisherman, and fish close quarters. Rarely make a cast over 30 ft. If I am fishing a spinnerbait parallel to the shoreline, then I'll go for the long cast, and find that 60 ft is plenty long enough for me. I don't fish deep diving crankbaits, so I never find it necessary to be able to cast from the launch ramp to the dam...lol.  Hootie  Hey Josh, thought you might like to see these. Part of my collection.  Amb5000.jpg  Pretty!  That's what I get with 1/4oz; I'm sort of comparing notes but without derailing the thread. I appreciate it!  I had this idea that there are some folks out there getting 50 yards with 1/4oz. I simply was not sure if that was possible with a non-custom rod and baitcaster.  Regards,  Josh 1
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 There is just a point in terms of price where it is not going to fish any better. It might last longer, or be lighter, but the fact is if you take a $50 rod, and pair it with a $100 reel, and take care of it, its going to fish just as well, and last a long time. There is a point where price and quality meet, and you just have to find that place.
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 You can throw a lot of money at the sport of fishing or you can squeak by under the dollar radar it is all up to you. I don't care what you spend on tackle. But I do enjoy seeing guys learn the sport & being successful with their accomplishments relative to where you fish. Tackle is just a tool in your arsenal. I do always get a chuckle when I read or hear of someone catching a trophy on a low price outfit. It's kind of in your face.    3
Texas Pride Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 My most exspinsive reel cost 30 dollars brand new from acadamy and i caught lots and lots of fish with it includeing my PB i use it for my umbralla rigs deep dive cranks pulling jigs through heavy cover its about two years old i never serviced it never made any repares to it and it still works as good as it did when i bought im a poor fisherman i could barrly afford it i belive its a ul1008 ultrex i dont rember the brand name but its a good reel its my only casting reel and im trying to buy more but dont have money for reels much less a casting rod so i say why not go cheep ots not like the fish say hmmm he has the more exspensive stuff i think i will bight is lure and i know people that catch lot of bass on 10 walmart zebco push buttons rod and reel now push buttons do break on there on about two years after use
Jaderose Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I use a BPS PQ on a 6'6" bps Extreme Rod spooled with 20lb Power Pro Slick with about 8ft of Fluoro leader for my main rig. Â Â Total combo around $200. Â I've never thrown a high end BC on a high end rod. Â I may upgrade someday but then again, I may not. Â This gives me everything I've needed up to this point and I love it. Â Like Hootie I throw 1/4 oz jigs and such on it all the time and with the distance I am typically looking for. Â Am I slamming high end gear? Â Not at all...I would LOVE to give it a try. Â I'm just saying that I love what I got and don't really have a "Tackle Monkey". Â The Bait monkey takes up too much room. Â Buy the best you can afford and love what you got. Â 3
John G Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I look at it like this........High end rods/reels are not magic wands that automatically catch fish but they sure as heck bring me enjoyment when I am using them and for me, that is all that matters. More so the reels than the rods. I can be content with a Loomis IMX but as long as I can afford it, high end reels are all I am going to buy. Note! An exception has to be made for the little 50 size low profile Shimano's (Curado and Scorpion XT1000). They are not high end but they sure are sweet! 1
Super User *Hootie Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 I'm loving this topic. It proves that we have guys all over the board when it comes to fishing gear, and we all catch fish. That's the name of the game. If you can only afford the basics, so be it. Get out there and "catch em". If you can afford the high end stuff and enjoy having it, great. "Smoke em if you got em". Hootie 4
Super User gulfcaptain Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 You know how many swimbaits I can buy if I get a $300 combo instead of a $500 with that $200 savings......well 2, but that's a different topic.....lol 2
Jaderose Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I'm loving this topic. It proves that we have guys all over the board when it comes to fishing gear, and we all catch fish. That's the name of the game. If you can only afford the basics, so be it. Get out there and "catch em". If you can afford the high end stuff and enjoy having it, great. "Smoke em if you got em". Hootie Exactly...I got into a minor "argument" on here a while back about the length of a rod and flipping and pitching. Â After a while, I realized that I was wrong to argue about anything. Â I use what I use and others use what they use. Â My opinion is just that and means nothing to someone else. Â And that's ok. Â I catch fish...they catch fish. Â Life is good and goes on. 1
Hogsticker Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 These threads all end the same way. Higher end gear doesn't catch me bigger fish, and if anyone thinks that's why I or others choose to use it you haven't read the thread, or are not even remotely understand my take. I should have known better
wisconsin heat Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 One thing I can't justify is the price on spinning reels. I use $40 Abu Cardinals and I see no reason to go any higher.  One of these retails 39.99 and the other 249.99. They look nearly identical. I know that the outside doesn't really matter, but is the inside of the revo 6 times better than the cardinal, that is how much more it costs. The main selling points for reels to me are: 1. Castability, how well/far does it cast 2. Ergonomics, is it comfortable to use 3. Durability, how long will it last 4. Drag, high rating and smoothness.  I have never used a revo premier, but this is what I predict is are the differences between the $40 cardinal and the $250 Revo  Castability - Same. With spinning reels, the line just falls off the spool, there is no spinning or anything. I really think these reels will cast the same distance.  Ergonomics- They are made from the same body, you can see it in the picture, the handle is slightly different and the materials are different, but I don't think it makes the revo significantly more comfortable to use.  Durability- The Revo will likely last longer than the Cardinal. That being said, I have used the same cardinal for 4 years with no signs of performance reduction, I think that is pretty good. The materials they use on the cardinal are not bad and aren't going to break under normal conditions.  Drag- This is where the Revo will kill the Cardinal. High end spinning reels always claim really good drag, but I think that is all they can really improve on. But the Cardinal doesn't have bad drag, just because it is a cheaper reel doesn't mean the drag is going to suck. I fought a 36 in Northern Pike for 5-10 minutes on 10lb braid and the drag worked absolutely fine. Bass fishing with spinning reels, I don't think the drag is extremely important. Maybe in certain conditions like light-line big smallmouth on Michigan or Erie. But otherwise, we as bass fisherman don't often target large bass with light line and spinning gear.  So in my opinion, I don't see a big advantage to a higher cost spinning reel. Not enough of an advantage to justify the cost anyways.
OK Bass Hunter Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 As for me, I will continue to overpay so as to fill that void that is in my soul, lol. Stick a JDM sticker on that Cherrywood and charge me $250, I'm buying it. 2
ColdSVT Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Im a mid range guy... curado, lews Tp, ci4, 13 omens, 13 *** and croix ltb. I see no reason to beyond those points however i understand why people do. Yes i lust over the metaniums, cores, team lews, LEs and NRX but they arent needed, they are wanted...and i understand lol I slayed em on a symetre and lightning rod for many years. Skills, location and timing trump money everytime. Heck most pros dont have all tje highend stuff and they make a living fishing! Well some of them do lol 1
Super User gulfcaptain Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 These threads all end the same way. Higher end gear doesn't catch me bigger fish, and if anyone thinks that's why I or others choose to use it you haven't read the thread, or are not even remotely understand my take. I should have known better I understood your take....you like fishing and enjoy fishing the finer fishing equipment because it makes you happy and by all means you should enjoy fishing with what you worked hard to purchase and aquire. Â I don't hate on people that enjoy fishing with nice equipment or choose to because they want to. Â Think the conversation ended up discussing that for most there isn't enough difference in midrange equipment and the higher dollar ones for most to make the jump and fish with. Â Some people like a fine wine, others like a cold beer. Â But some and I do say some, not all, look to buy the higher priced equipment thinking it will make them a better fisherman or do it to brag and show off what they have. I'm sure there are many that think my comment about saving $200 and buying 2 swimbaits was a joke, but honestly with taxes it would come out to about $220 for the two of them. Â We all purchase the equipment WE WANT which it the great part of this sport and we make it work for us. Â Weather it be a $39 reel or a $500 reel, it's all about what we want. Â The fish don't care and each of us is only as good as the amount of knowledge and skill we have and understand how to translate it into catching fish. Â 2
Super User *Hootie Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 It adds another level of enjoyment to something I already love, so why not. You said you wouldn't get rid of what you referred to as your good stuff, so that somewhat sums it up. Get in where you fit in. I would rather fish out of a 20,000 dollar boat than a Jon too, but I can't. I've tried enough 100 dollar reels to know the refinement simply isn't there. Different story if it was all I knew but I ventured to the dark side too long ago. Yes they work, and yes you may be going crazy. Your first sentence tells the whole story. Another level of enjoyment. I love bass fishing and I love having the best gear I can afford. Loomis rods, Shimano Core reels, tungsten worm weights, yes, I kknow I griped about losing so many, but I can't give them up. Trokar hooks, Seaguar Abrazx line, the list goes on and on. It's my life and my game. So far, I am winning. Hootie 2
Super User Raul Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 These threads always become a peeing contest, those banging their chest on how much they spend in uper end gear and those banging their chest on how much they don't spend in lower end grear. Get this through your skull : fish don't give a d**n with what you are fishing, it's you what counts. 4
Super User *Hootie Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 These threads always become a peeing contest, those banging their chest on how much they spend in uper end gear and those banging their chest on how much they don't spend in lower end grear. Get this through your skull : fish don't give a d**n with what you are fishing, it's you what counts. Got it boss...lol. Hootie
Cgrinder Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 As for me, I will continue to overpay so as to fill that void that is in my soul, lol. Stick a JDM sticker on that Cherrywood and charge me $250, I'm buying it. Â Always nice to meet a kindred spirit.
Cgrinder Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 People with cheap gear probably catch many more fish than I do.  That's because they're out fishing while I'm changing the handle on my Sol for the third time this week. 6
Super User Goose52 Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 People with cheap gear probably catch many more fish than I do.  That's because they're out fishing while I'm changing the handle on my Sol for the third time this week.  Everyone has their own priorities. In my case, I've caught six bass just since this thread started...  5
Super User F14A-B Posted November 9, 2014 Super User Posted November 9, 2014 Funny stuff right there^^ both of the above posts! 1
Super User tomustang Posted November 10, 2014 Super User Posted November 10, 2014 People catch fish with their high end gear? I just keep mine out on the deck so it looks like im using them 1
Super User Darren. Posted November 10, 2014 Super User Posted November 10, 2014 Fun thread. Just use what catches you fish!  I looked up the ESPN story on Pat Cullen, a trophy bass hunter, but the URL is DOA. Anyhow, Pat caught an ungodly amount of 10 pound bass on Ugly Stiks! Great article, obviously his methods are not for everyone, but hey, there it is.  I enjoy some of the (for me) high-end gear out there. My highest being a single St. Croix Avid rod, two  Shimano Chronarch 50e reels, and two Stradic 1000FI reels.  To be honest, I love the lightness of the Stradics, but there's something about the Lexa 2000SH I have that wins me over. Whatever it is attracts me to Daiwa spinning reels. My Lexa baitcaster, not so much.  The Chronarchs? Nothing cheaper I have meets or beats them. Chronarchs simply rule, plain and simple, LOL.
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