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Looking to pick up my first swimbait setup this off season and am trying to decide between these two lines of rods...

 

Am i just splitting hairs? 

 

Does anyone know a legitimate difference between the two?

 

Also- please let me know if there are better options for a swimbait rod! 

 

-Thanks

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Mike long=longer handle. The 795ml handle is 3 inches longer than the standard champ swimbait, and the 806ml is 5 inches longer. You just have to decide if you want that extra long handle...

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Mike long=longer handle. The 795ml handle is 3 inches longer than the standard champ swimbait, and the 806ml is 5 inches longer. You just have to decide if you want that extra long handle...

 

 

Sweet- thanks brotha!

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Looking to pick up my first swimbait setup this off season and am trying to decide between these two lines of rods...

 

Also- please let me know if there are better options for a swimbait rod! 

 

-Thanks

 

Kinda broad questions; what baits do you plan to fish?

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Kinda broad questions; what baits do you plan to fish?

 

Since I have never tossed SBs, my plan was to pick up a few various styles from the following brands to start:

 

-Hudds

-Spro

-Savage Gear (Line Through)

 

 

Pretty much open to any Swimbait, that doesn't break the bank.  

 

Setup will mostly be used on a moderately-clear lake.

 

Also- planning on pairing it with a Shimano Cardiff 400.

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8" baits I assume? I'll actually recommend a different Dobyns rod, the 867. It has enough tip to cast even 2 oz class baits (don't do that a whole lot, but definitely works), and can go up all the way to lob casting Matt's OG deadstick- the 13" one. Huge range of baits it can handle. Balances well with a Cardiff 401 (I fish leftys, and all my reels are budget-priced). Most everyone starts out with small baits and then finds out he'll like to fish bigger baits lol. If one rod is what you plan to buy, the 867 is a good choice. The handle length actually falls just between the ML and the regular SB rods handle lengths, good compromise.

 

If you're talking about 6" baits, forget everything I said, and pick up a 5 power (medium-heavy) rod. Haven't fished the 795, but from what I read, it'd shine for small baits, and can work with light 8" baits.

 

P.S. 867 handle length.

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8" baits I assume? I'll actually recommend a different Dobyns rod, the 867. It has enough tip to cast even 2 oz class baits (don't do that a whole lot, but definitely works), and can go up all the way to lob casting Matt's OG deadstick- the 13" one. Huge range of baits it can handle. Balances well with a Cardiff 401 (I fish leftys, and all my reels are budget-priced). Most everyone starts out with small baits and then finds out he'll like to fish bigger baits lol. If one rod is what you plan to buy, the 867 is a good choice. The handle length actually falls just between the ML and the regular SB rods handle lengths, good compromise.

 

If you're talking about 6" baits, forget everything I said, and pick up a 5 power (medium-heavy) rod. Haven't fished the 795, but from what I read, it'd shine for small baits, and can work with light 8" baits.

 

 

 

 

 

Wow! I appreciate the response. Looks like I have quite the decision to make.  I think I may have to go with the 795.  Once I am more seasoned with swimbaits, I will probably go with the 867 and step up to bigger baits.

 

Thanks again!

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Also, the 400 size Cardiff has a non-disengaging levelwind and it is a pretty wide reel. A 300 size might cast a little better for smalller baits and lighter line.

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8" baits I assume? I'll actually recommend a different Dobyns rod, the 867. It has enough tip to cast even 2 oz class baits (don't do that a whole lot, but definitely works), and can go up all the way to lob casting Matt's OG deadstick- the 13" one. Huge range of baits it can handle. Balances well with a Cardiff 401 (I fish leftys, and all my reels are budget-priced). Most everyone starts out with small baits and then finds out he'll like to fish bigger baits lol. If one rod is what you plan to buy, the 867 is a good choice. The handle length actually falls just between the ML and the regular SB rods handle lengths, good compromise.

 

If you're talking about 6" baits, forget everything I said, and pick up a 5 power (medium-heavy) rod. Haven't fished the 795, but from what I read, it'd shine for small baits, and can work with light 8" baits.

 

P.S. 867 handle length.

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I'm seriously considering an 867 mainly for the mattlures dead twitch and baits of similar size and smaller (6+ ounces). How does the 867 handle those baits? Is it comfortable to fish a dead twitch all day? Also what size reel do you use? Thanks.

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I'm seriously considering an 867 mainly for the mattlures dead twitch and baits of similar size and smaller (6+ ounces). How does the 867 handle those baits? Is it comfortable to fish a dead twitch all day? Also what size reel do you use? Thanks.

 

For the 13" Deadtwitch you probably want the 908 or a similar powered rod. The 10" Deadtwitch should be fine on the 867, but I don't have a 10" Deadtwitch.

 

The 867 is great for 4-6 oz baits. Should be great for baits upto 8 or even 10 ozs I guess, but I don't have any baits in the 6-10 oz range.

 

I haven't tried fishing a Deadtwitch all day, so I don't know. But it's not really a cast-and-retrieve bait (I'm sure you know that, just stressing). It does a sick walk-the-dog too, especially if you can get a little creative with the weighing.

 

Fishing a 401A Cardiff on the 867.

 

Hope that helps.

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Also, the 400 size Cardiff has a non-disengaging levelwind and it is a pretty wide reel. A 300 size might cast a little better for smalller baits and lighter line.

I appreciate this info as well.   Looking forward to getting my new setup!

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