Issues With Springy Line (Way Too Much Memory I Believe)

[Big Fish Small Pond]

How is it that most of you deal with the issues of springy line?

[paleus]

Switch to braid.

[aavery2]

I am guessing we are talking about spinning reels here.   A couple of things you can do to help improve on your situation, try using a lighter line, use braided line with a leader, try using a line conditioner, or use top quality line.   

 

More details would help give a better response,  What type of reel are you using?  What line and strength are you using?  

 

 

Anyway good luck.

[F14A-B]

If spinning, did you overfill?

[Big Fish Small Pond]

well it happens after a couple months into the season on most of my set-ups, both spinning and casting.

 

I also believe it is line twist along with the memory on the line from being on the spool.

 

Just for instance, to get a clearer answer even, I was out fishing the dpr in IL today with my baitcaster and it basically looked like a slinky when i threaded the line thru the eyelets. I am using 12lb cxx p line, on a black max/gx2 caster combo.

 

Now I did not use some Real Magic or any line conditioner this year, but do plan to next season when re-lining my combos.

[F14A-B]

Sounds normal for the line and duration of time on your spools, I don't use a line conditioner myself, however 99 out of 100 guys prefer KVD line conditioner. It must be superior.

[Choporoz]

I tried a few different P-lines this year (but not Prime.)  I am going back to Yo-Zuri next year.  I'm tired of two aspects of the P-line: the memory and the propensity to crease and break -- usually on the spool.  I've had way too many breaks on the reel this year - generally as a result of a backlash with a fold/crease in the line.  I did use KVD line conditioner on the P-lines...a lot.  And it does help, but six or eight weeks on the spool and I start noticing the slinkys even with KVD.

[Raul]

Well, there´s your answer: P-Line CXX

 

Though as nails, coils like a friggin´ slinky, line conditioner is going to help ..... but not much.

[BassinLou]

Sounds like its time to change it out. Once line becomes that springy its time to either change to braid, or refill, if you really prefer that line. 

[new2BC4bass]

Yup.  Change the line.  There are several good alternatives.  Sufix Elite and Siege are great.  Sunline Super Natural seems to be pretty good.  Also Trilene XL.  These lines will be softer than CXX, have more stretch, and not be as abrasive resistant.  However, they won't have near the memory of CXX.  I don't use line conditioners on mine, and have no problem first time out after sitting all winter.  Big Game will have more memory until it gets a good soaking, but is a line a lot of people like.  I've no experience with McCoy Mean Green, but from what I've read it might be another line worth trying.

[Big Fish Small Pond]

well thanks for the thoruough responses guys. I have been considering that the p-line cxx could be the culprit in itself.

 

If I might ask then, what line would you spool onto a black max baitcaster set up with an ugly stik gx2 MH? Keep in mind that I had 12 lb mono P-Line CXX

[F14A-B]

A softer line.. As in Pline CX or trilene xl both are softer lines thereby easier to handle, those lines will coil up too though after a couple months or so.. Change ur line more often. Depending on how often you go.

[Big Fish Small Pond]

Well now that you mention it Alonerankin2, how often is it that you change your line on your reels? Along with how often a month you fish on average?

 

 

For me it would be at least 12 times fishing a month, and I change my lines every new season, however from heavy use I find I sometimes run out of line and need to respool.

Honestly, the black max/gx2 combo has seen a lot of work this year, being my go to baitcaster setup, and had new line put on just 2 months ago or so.

[F14A-B]

As needed, if fishing rocks ( who doesn't ) every 3 trips maybe more, in salt I would change every 2 days ( bass size reels ) there's break offs and other factors too.. I fish a fair amount, every day the last 10 so it depends... But I can tell you @8$ a spool of CXX @ 330 yds is cheap enuff for me to change out as often as I want and not sting.. In fact, if I don't do this, my confidence may suffer. I have changed my line out often since the 80's it's a old habit and it is a good one to get into. However, you must understand this is my way, it is not suitable for all folks, but if using nylon blends, I don't know why one wouldn't. Perhaps it's overkill, but I'm not changing now! If you spooled up & did not fish for a couple months the line is fine, might have tight coils but it's still good line.. Just harder to handle, even heat will help the line relax some...

[Big Fish Small Pond]

yea they have 1000 yard spools of cxx @ $12 of it sometimes at the BPS near me. Well thanks for your input, kind of an ocd line changer ... haha.

 

at least i know I won't be the only one changing line so often then.

 

Yea, at the peak of the summer fishing I was out there every single day, and I find myself doing the same right now before the season ends.

[Preytorien]

Springy line is usually just an issue of the line wanting to still conform to the diameter of the spool it was packaged on, which is several times bigger than your reel's spool. It's a lot like a coil spring, and especially if it's been sitting all winter that baby will spring like crazy.

 

I've used KVD and it's pretty good stuff....works good to make lines more limp.

 

But the best tip I've used is take spool off the reel (with the line on it, taped down or secured in the line holder tab), and put it in very hot/boiling water, for about 5 mins in something like a coffee cup or something. Make sure the water is boiling/hot before you put the line it it.

 

What this does is softens the line, which then as it cools it allows it to re-conform to the diameter of the spool, not the packaging spool.

 

I've done this MANY times now with flouro, mono, and copoly, and it makes a HUGE difference. The line still has some memory, but it's to the size of your spool, not the packagine, so it's much more manageable.

 

Give it a try and let us know how you feel about it.

 

PS -- doesn't work with braid, but hey, you don't need to

[new2BC4bass]

well thanks for the thoruough responses guys. I have been considering that the p-line cxx could be the culprit in itself.

 

If I might ask then, what line would you spool onto a black max baitcaster set up with an ugly stik gx2 MH? Keep in mind that I had 12 lb mono P-Line CXX

What?  You don't like Elite, Siege, Super Natural, XT or Mean Green?    12# mono is my standard for MH rods.

[Big Fish Small Pond]

That is very interesting Preytorien, I will have to try that when respooling my rigs for next season.

 

I have put the spool that the line comes on into boiling hot water before spooling it onto the reel as well on other rigs I have and they do not seem to have nearly as much memory. So you may be onto something here with the spool of the reel being submerged in boiling water.

[Preytorien]

It really works for me. I just did 2 spinning rods last weekend for river smallmouth. I have them both spooled with Copolymer, and had a normal bit of memory/springiness, but after the boiling, they're nice tight coils.....added KVD L&L and now it's nearly as limp as braid....no kidding.

[gulfcaptain]

Um heat is the enemy of mono, so if you boil it you weaken the line. Mono has memory, when it sets in it's time to change it.  $12.00 for 1000 yards, so it runs you about a $1.20 per refill if that depending on how much you take off.  And you need to have the line come off the spool and go on the reel the same way or it will not lay right.  If you fish from a boat you can also let it out and drag it behind the boat (without anything on it).  This will straighten it out as well as let you repack it onto the reel. Mono is cheap, keep it fresh because you never know when that fish of a lifetime is going to bite and the only thing between the two of you is that line.....is a $1.20 worth the risk of what may be the biggest bass you have ever caught?

[OroBass]

I recently started "stretching" my fluorocarbon. About every week or so I hook my line to a tree or fence post and walk all the line out. Then I gently stretch it. Works wonders.

[new2BC4bass]

A nice limp line needing no boiling or line conditioner for spinning reels is................................never mind.

[Big Fish Small Pond]

Yea Gulfcaptain,

It is less of me being cheap on replacing line and more of me being an inexperienced fisherman overall. I mean I fished much when I was a kid, but that was geared more towards live bait and bobber rigs, while I watched my dad pull in huge fish of all types wondering why I keep pulling in just bluegills.

I really did not fish for aboout 12 years or so and have just recently broken back into the hobby in a big way popping all kinds of LMB on a local pond. Now I am targeting some northern pike for the colder temperatures up here.

[Big Fish Small Pond]

Thanks for all the replies guys, I am like a sponge just soaking up all this knowledge and experience posted of this hobby. I have found bass resource to be overwhelmingly better than any other forum I joined with answers and constructive criticism towards the posted topic. (I joined several at the same time being relatively new to fishing, however, there is not really a comparison, kind of like kvd vs real magic as line conditioners   .... )

[wnybassman]

Usually the first good hookset on a fish straightens out any springyness in my line.