Slow Reels For What?

[tomustang]

Because it is a way to actually force your self to slow down even slower when you need to.

When you change technique you are readjusting your style anyway, I like to be in control much as possible so having a faster reel can do that much easier than a slower reel. Everyone is different, I don't have a problem slowing down a reel for a slower presentation but others might.

[Josh Smith]

I'm not sure why anyone would want to remove the IAR out of any 21st century reel for any reason other than a proper clean & lube... What on earth good could come out of this?

 

I was relating an idea to convey a similar idea.  No reason to do this except experiment.

[Josh Smith]

What material, what size, where do I get this part?  Telling the average user to jam scrap metal laying around the shop into a roller bearing is bad advice. 

 

You're really stretching things here to get at pulling line out of a reel in reverse proves it's sensitivity.  I don't think that reel sensitivity is total bunk, but I gotta say, I'm of the opinion that if you're relying on it to tell you what your bait is doing, you're rod is junk.  The rod, even a $20 graphite job, will transit more information than a slow reel, fast reel, in between reel, or string wound up on a pop can. 

 

I'm sorry, what it is that your trying to demonstrate?  That a reel with a higher gear ratio will have less revolutions of the handle per some arbitrary length of line pulled out?  You can get that directly from the gear ratio spec itself.  I'm struggling to understand.  What does this have to do with sensitivity? 

 

Are you saying that on a faster reel you can't react to input from the bait as quickly because the spool is moving so fast?  Fair enough, but you can also argue that you can't react as quickly on a slow reel because your hands are already moving too fast.  Both points are moot, when put in the context of a reel being mounted to a rod.  Even using your logic, a faster reel with no AR would transmit more back to the hands because a small change in bait movement results in greater handle movement.  Also a moot point.  Feel it in the rod.

 

Or is this just a stand you're taking in support of slow ratio reels because it's all own, and all you know?

 

I'm cool with whatever you use to fish - heck, I use a 1:1 ratio centrepin that has no drag or AR to fish rivers - so long as you enjoy what you're doing.  I'd suggest you try some faster ratio reels long enough to learn to adjust to them, and switch back to a slow reel before declaring one better than the other, and see if the your old arguments hold up.  Slow, fast, in the middle- they're just variations on the same tool - it's not a hammer vs. a table saw debate. In certain situations, one or the other either feels better or offers a slight advantage - most were brought up here.  For others, it doesn't matter.  I don't like fast reels for anything moving, except when fast isn't fast enough - then I need faster, lol.

 

Slow reels catch fish.  So do fast ones, and everything in between.  "Better" is personal preference, though there are definite trends that occur among larger groups of users.  The reasons don't have to be quantified through backwards math and off beat claims of better this or that.  I have no need to prove scientifically why I prefer a full rear grip over split.  I just like it.  It's not more or less sensitive, lighter or heavier,. balanced or unbalanced....I just like it.  That doesn't make me smarter than split grip guys.  I suppose I could demonstrate some science to prove why it's better, but it isn't why I use a full grip.

 

 

None.

 

Dude, it's illustrative.  The stuff I mention can be found at most hardware stores. 

 

Maybe I just have more faith in folks to do their own tests.  Reels are great machines, but it's not rocket science. 

 

I relate information and it's up to the end user on how to use that information. 

 

I think you'll agree that the rod and reel should work together to provide feedback in addition well together in all other aspects of fishing.  I'm relating my thoughts on the subject and they're by no means rules written in stone.  Call them informed opinions, maybe.

 

You said

 

I'd suggest you try some faster ratio reels long enough to learn to adjust to them, and switch back to a slow reel before declaring one better than the other, and see if the your old arguments hold up.

 

I have fast reels.  I regularly use reels ranging from ~23IPT to ~30IPT.

 

Each has its place.

 

I'm not declaring one better than the other.  I use a 26IPT most, but switch down or up as the need arises.

 

Francho, I'm not sure where the communications fail is.  I personally think we two, you and I, are a couple of opinionated individuals, and stubborn to boot.  There's nothing backward about the math I used in that other post, for example.  I don't understand why it was brought up here..?  Let it go, man!

 

When I'm on the water, I like to fish.  When I'm at my shop, I like to work on things and test ideas.  Some I keep to myself and others I toss out there.

 

I dunno, man.  Peace.

 

Josh

[IAY]

I think the number one thing people have against you Josh, is how you posit a lot of pretty obscure things, and try to justify them by using a mix of technical terms plus elementary calculations. 

[FunkJishing]

Fixed that for you.

thanks lol