Weld's Largemouth Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Hey all! Ive got a floating line thru 3d trout swimbait from savage gear, ive never caught anything on it however. I feel like since it floats the hook up is terrible. How can i modify it so that it slowly sinks? Thanks Welds Quote
MIbassin Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 You could use nail weights but i feel like it may be easier to just buy a slow sink 1 Quote
NEjitterbugger Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Best bet would probably be to buy the slow sink version... ^^^^^^^^^ Quote
Weld's Largemouth Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 You could use nail weights but i feel like it may be easier to just buy a slow sink Best bet would probably be to buy the slow sink version... ^^^^^^^^^Well im not going to buy another one, i just got this one.. So how can i effectively fish it? Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted October 20, 2014 Super User Posted October 20, 2014 Try a heavier hook, 20lb fluoro and a 1/16th nail weight in the front section. 1 Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted October 20, 2014 Super User Posted October 20, 2014 Like speedbead said, a heavier hook as well as a 1/16th nail weight right between the 2 lower finlets will cause it to sink. You can also alter how much weight you want to use and make it suspend just under the surface. This works good when they are following but have problems commiting. Fish this and a Huddleston and the fish seem to come in closer for the line thru then the hudd. The fact you can stop it and it suspends while they are following it causes them to come in closer, then quickly swim it and you can get a reaction strike out of them. Pull it about 4ft and stop it again. If they pursue and don't eat it when its moving, if they are truely interested the moment it stops they will swim up and inhale it. Or they will irritate you and nip at the tale and then swim away. Quote
ChrisAW Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 I have the same one, and what they said will work. I stuck three, 1/16oz tungsten nail weights in it to get it to sink a bit. I might need to do one more, it sinks but comes right back up when you reel. I believe the slow sink is a 1/4oz heavier than the floater, so one more would do it.I inserted mine in the bottom, near the back of the first section of the bait. It sinks perfectly level with the weights there. Quote
Weld's Largemouth Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 Like speedbead said, a heavier hook as well as a 1/16th nail weight right between the 2 lower finlets will cause it to sink. You can also alter how much weight you want to use and make it suspend just under the surface. This works good when they are following but have problems commiting. Fish this and a Huddleston and the fish seem to come in closer for the line thru then the hudd. The fact you can stop it and it suspends while they are following it causes them to come in closer, then quickly swim it and you can get a reaction strike out of them. Pull it about 4ft and stop it again. If they pursue and don't eat it when its moving, if they are truely interested the moment it stops they will swim up and inhale it. Or they will irritate you and nip at the tale and then swim away. I dont have nail weights and dont plan on ordering online and waiting awhile for them to come. What else can i use? Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted October 20, 2014 Super User Posted October 20, 2014 Go to Lowe's or Home Depot and get stainless steel finishing nails. You might have to get creative with the placement and you'll be using more because they are not as dense but they should still work. 1 Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted October 20, 2014 Super User Posted October 20, 2014 You got any1/8 oz worm weights? Make a hole and insert the weight. If it sinks to fast, clip off a piece of it and try again. Quote
einscodek Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Welds, Its a line thru so changing the hook is gonna make it more top heavy if anything else You can try to rig a bottom hook maybe but even a bottom hook I feel may be too light to make the floater sink AND the way you wanna fish you may not want a bottom treble You may have to use either nail weights Or rig a bottom treble weighted at its shank. OR fish this lure on a heavy carolina style rig which will get the lure as a rig into the subsurface of the water column this is the way I do it personally I like the floater cause you can fish it topwater and rig it to go sub 1 Quote
Weld's Largemouth Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 You got any1/8 oz worm weights? Make a hole and insert the weight. If it sinks to fast, clip off a piece of it and try again. 5/16 oz bullet weights i've got Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted October 20, 2014 Super User Posted October 20, 2014 Well take some side cutters (aka dikes) and cut off the end of the bullet weight and insert it into the bait between the two lower fins. Quote
Weld's Largemouth Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 Well take some side cutters (aka dikes) and cut off the end of the bullet weight and insert it into the bait between the two lower fins. Ok, thanks. How can i keep that from falling out? Just hot glue it? Quote
einscodek Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 You may wanna check the line thrus dissection.. Tats a $20 bait balanced fairly well yer mess with.. 2 Quote
RSM789 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 This is a question to his question more than an answer - Would those suspend dots designed to make floating jerkbaits neutral work? Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted October 20, 2014 Super User Posted October 20, 2014 If it's the 8" bait, it doesn't have the new top/bottom hook slot. I put a 1/0 Mustad 1X 2X Short Shank ultra grip treble on mine. As long as you weight it between the 2 finlets on the bottom...fill you sink up or bathtub up to check it and insert the weight. Give it the float test and see how it balances out. Adjust as needed till it's level and slowly sinks or suspends. I prefer mine to slowly sink a bit tail heavy. Only because when you see a dying fish it always seems to sink tail first at a slight angle. The newer Gen 2 line thru's have hook placement where it can either be rigged tophook or bottom. If you get it were it sinks how you want, you can put a dab of Superglue or if you have it Mend-It. 1 Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted October 20, 2014 Super User Posted October 20, 2014 I tried the suspend dots, they don't like to stick to the rubber and I ended up using them like a nail weight at one point folding them over and inserting them into the bait that way. For those to work I think it would have taken almost 8 of them to make a difference. Nail weights are the best if you have them but if not you have to improvise for the weight. 1 Quote
Felixone Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I saw a video where they were saying to cut pieces of a wire clothes hanger to use instead of a nail weight. I have been meaning to try it but haven't gotten around to it yet. The metal used for clothes hangers is soft enough you might be able to rough up the cut piece enough that it in effect makes barbs to help keep it from falling out. Again, I haven't tried it, this is just off the top of my head. Quote
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