ChrisWi Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I now own three St. Croix rods, two Mojo bass and a premier, both series have treated me amazing and the sensitivity is great, but is it worth the money to get an Avid or LTB? Quote
Super User Darren. Posted October 15, 2014 Super User Posted October 15, 2014 A lot will say absolutely yes. Since you have enjoyed Croix, I'd say no harm at all in upgrading to an Avid. Personally, though, I've got one Avid, but I find my BPS Carbonlites are pretty much equal IN MY HANDS sensitivty-wise. 1 Quote
Super User tomustang Posted October 15, 2014 Super User Posted October 15, 2014 You won't know until you try one, no matter how many praise them. Sensitivity is close but the LT is better. Quote
OntarioFishingGuy Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Premier is good, Avid is great, LTB is greater, Legend Elite is greatest. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 The Avid and up are where St Croix really shines. 1 Quote
GANGGREEN Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I tried a friend's Avid the other day and I liked it but didn't like it $200 worth. I think that my $100 Fenwick HMG feels similar, if not maybe even a little better in my hands so personally, I doubt that I'll get an Avid series even though I'm looking to upgrade several of my outfits. Just my two cents, I know that they're very popular and guys that own them seem to love them. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted October 15, 2014 Super User Posted October 15, 2014 I always think of the St. Croix Avid as the best bang for the buck rod. Also based on the rods I have fished and owned, I think Avid is where St. Croix line up begins when it comes to sensitivity. I have fished the Premier and Triumph and the Avid is big step up in overall quality as well. Quote
adam32 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Avids are definitely worth the money. I have a stockpile of them just in case st. Croix decides to change them. I wouldn't buy a premier or MOJO, and I've owned both. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted October 16, 2014 Super User Posted October 16, 2014 The St. Croix store in Park Falls, WI had a basket full of new Avid baitcast rods with minor cosmetic blemishes for $60 each last week. Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 The SCIII blank (Avid, Avid X, and Rage rods) is a huge step up. I still like my Premier and have fished Mojos that are good rods, but after buying a Rage, I really noticed a huge difference in sensitivity. The blank is really, really good. Quote
PersicoTrotaVA Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I have 2 mojo rods, one glass cranking rod and the 'spinnerbait' casting rod. I love them both. I had a mojo spinning rod but I broke it and I decided not to buy another. I like the Powell Diesels, less money, same sensitivity, if not better, for less money. I have wanted to try a LTB rod but I can't justify spending that kind of money on one and I probably won't have that kind of money to spend until next year. Quote
Rangerphil Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I love my LTB. I got it in the spinning model for dropshots. When I buy a new rod again it will be a LTB. Now saying that if you like the less expensive rods then stick with those and spend the money elsewhere! Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted October 16, 2014 Super User Posted October 16, 2014 A few less dollars gets you the same blank in their rage series and has more of a split grip design. I have three rage rods and they are great rods. I personally am not a fan of cork grips and especially not full ones so that is why i checked out the rage. Quote
xxmurrxx Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I have never used the Mojo's or Rage series but had premiers and avids, and one LTB I'd say yes. I found the avid a lot better than the premier, and the LTB was my fav. rod pretty expensive for me though if $ in that price range was not an issue I'd go with the LTB. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted October 16, 2014 Super User Posted October 16, 2014 I think there is a bigger difference going from a Premier to an Avid than going from an Avid to a LTB. LTB to LE or LX is pretty much unmeasurable. basically, pick what color blank or guides or grip you want and go with that series. there is that little difference between them. A few less dollars gets you the same blank in their rage series and has more of a split grip design. Just because the Rage is rolled with the same graphite does not mean it's the same blank as the Avid. I have compared Rage rods to equivalent SCIII blanks and while they may share the mandrel design, SCIII graphite and the St. Croix name, they are NOT the same blank. Even if they were the same blank, the Avid would be worth the extra $50 to not have to deal with those Minima guides! 2 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted October 16, 2014 Global Moderator Posted October 16, 2014 The St. Croix store in Park Falls, WI had a basket full of new Avid baitcast rods with minor cosmetic blemishes for $60 each last week. Man If I would have known you were there, I would have paid you for your time, gas and bought you lunch to pick me up one while you were there! Mike Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 16, 2014 Super User Posted October 16, 2014 The jump from an SCIII to SCIV blank is not quite as dramatic as the jump from an SCII. I have a dozen Avids, four or five LTBs, and love them all. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted October 16, 2014 Super User Posted October 16, 2014 I think there is a bigger difference going from a Premier to an Avid than going from an Avid to a LTB. LTB to LE or LX is pretty much unmeasurable. basically, pick what color blank or guides or grip you want and go with that series. there is that little difference between them. Just because the Rage is rolled with the same graphite does not mean it's the same blank as the Avid. I have compared Rage rods to equivalent SCIII blanks and while they may share the mandrel design, SCIII graphite and the St. Croix name, they are NOT the same blank. Even if they were the same blank, the Avid would be worth the extra $50 to not have to deal with those Minima guides! When i bought mine i checked out the Avids and Rage side by side and didn't notice an difference. Ad after fishing with Avids previously and then the rage rods for over a year now i can't say the Avids are any better but much of that may have to do with the grips and my preference. Sensitivity is about the same to me and both are a big time jump up from the mojo or premier blanks. s far as the guides go, i haven't had any issues. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted October 16, 2014 Global Moderator Posted October 16, 2014 The jump from an SCIII to SCIV blank is not quite as dramatic as the jump from an SCII. I have a dozen Avids, four or five LTBs, and love them all. Mr. Franco All things being equal, which one would you say is the more sensitive in your hands? Mike Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 16, 2014 Super User Posted October 16, 2014 SCIV. I'm not sure I fish better with that extra bit of sensitivity - the Avids are plenty sensitive. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted October 16, 2014 Global Moderator Posted October 16, 2014 Thanks Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted October 16, 2014 Super User Posted October 16, 2014 I find the LTB to be the "sweet spot" in the St.Croix line-up. The rod that took me by surprise was the Rage, I have found them for 99 dollars, and they are a very nice rod for that price. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted October 16, 2014 Super User Posted October 16, 2014 When the Mexican plant first opened, the blanks were made in WI. then trucked down, within a short time, the blanks were then rolled in Mexico. I first bought a avid in 99 or 2000.. I don't believe the rage is the same blank, something is different, that said, it's still a good rod. I have one rage @ 7'11" heavy w/ minimas . I like the rod just fine. USA Avids are also guide wrapped by the community in WI.. It's been that way for decades. I have also used the LTB when it first released, wasn't any better than a avid, unless it was a recoil rod, IMO LTB is a better build now though, (components) Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted October 16, 2014 Super User Posted October 16, 2014 I now own three St. Croix rods, two Mojo bass and a premier, both series have treated me amazing and the sensitivity is great, but is it worth the money to get an Avid or LTB? Um...... yeah. If the $$ is there I highly recommend those two rods. Quote
ChrisWi Posted October 16, 2014 Author Posted October 16, 2014 The jump from an SCIII to SCIV blank is not quite as dramatic as the jump from an SCII. I have a dozen Avids, four or five LTBs, and love them all. Being only 15, and getting all the money myself it takes a LONG time to save up, it's tough spending that much money when I could get almost two rods for the price of one. The biggest problem with getting one is I'll want to replace my whole line up with them! Quote
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