More Banning Of The Arig..

[slimshad]

Now you can't use one at any BASS events.  I like them and think you should be able to use them.  Wish Indiana would have kept the five hook limit too.  We had it for a year, I made a ton of them and then they dropped it to 3 hooks.  I say fuey on the Arig banning!  catches fish and thats what I am trying to do.  Carry on, thanks for the rant...  

[roadwarrior]

Well, I don't really care whether The Rig is fished in tournaments or not, but for everyone

else, NOW is the time! I especially like trolling slow or drifting along grass edges and over

structure.

 

 

 

[Catch and Grease]

The majority of pros don't like it being used in tournaments, so that's why its banned.

This is from an article about it being banned in FLW tourneys "The primary reason the rig was banned was that the majority of pros simply didn’t want it. In the spring, FLW surveyed all the Tour pros and the results told the story – two thirds of the 150 wanted it barred. At that point, all other discussions cease as this is the pros’ circuit. If they don’t want it and they can agree (to a majority), then it’s gone. With concrete data in hand, FLW made the only rational decision it could."

I'm assuming this is the same reason it was banned in BASS

[gulfcaptain]

So can they still use the Booya Rigs? It's up to the organizations that are putting on the even.  If they decide to ban it, so be it.  That's their event and they make the rules.  If you don't like it don't fish them.  There are a lot of other rules you should look into....NO cell phones during tournement times except for emergencies.  Non boaters have quit a list, no hand held gps, no recording spots, no passing information of previous day with a different pro, just to think of right off the top of my head.  Oh, did you know they do back ground checks too.  It's just another rule if you choose to fish for money you have to follow.

[slimshad]

It is a bait that catches bass, not a "rule' or background check.. Is there another bait that is banned?  A jerkbait and several topwaters have three treble hooks on them, thats 9 hooks. 

[Logan S]

Honestly, I think it's banned because those organizations didn't want nearly every event to be dominated by it....It would get boring for the anglers and the fans.

Trolling catches a lot of bass too, you still need to find them, still need the right bait, etc... But no one complains?

Their organization, their rules... Doesn't bother me at all.

[roadwarrior]

The majority of pros don't like it being used in tournaments, so that's why its banned.

 

Well, if that's the criteria I am surprised the Senko hasn't been banned, too!

 

 

[gulfcaptain]

It is a bait that catches bass, not a "rule' or background check.. Is there another bait that is banned?  A jerkbait and several topwaters have three treble hooks on them, thats 9 hooks. 

No, 1 treble is 1 hook.  CA only allowed 3 hooks max so hard baits can only have 3 trebles but it is a sing  So A-Rig would be 5 hooks thus 2 dummy baits and 3 hooked baits.  And if they "ruled" to ban the use of this bait then it is a RULE.  Live bait catches bass too, but there's a RULE that says "No Live Bait". Sorry your arguement kinda collapes on itself with the point it catches bass, so does a cast net when they are on beds, but I don't think they are going to let me do that either.

[PersicoTrotaVA]

This is what happens when something works too well and a few people get miffed because they aren't catching them and don't want to throw an Arig on.  Yes you can pull in 2 or more fish at a time, but you still gotta find those fish...if it's not against the states fishing laws, then it shouldn't be banned...but I'm not in charge at BASS.

[Raul]

It´s not because it has many hooks, it´s because at one time you have more than 1 bait in the water.

[gulfcaptain]

Thank you Raul.  And for those that don't know, yes it is illeagel  in certain states where you can only fish one baited hook, thus fish 4 dummy baits and one single hooked bait.  Not really the bait you want to throw then since they have 4 other options so that's why Booya came up with their bait idea with small grubs and blades so you can attach a bait behind. 

[WRB]

One of the issues with the A-rig is foul hooking bass, California banned any lure or lures that have more than 3 hooks and has laws against snagging game fish. Every state has different laws, Arizona a neighboring state the shares Colorado river as a border has a 3 hook, 1 lure law that eliminates the A-rig and other multiple lure use. Most A-rigs in California have 3 lures with single hooks and multiple attractors; blades or drummer swimmers.

You can't troll lures in most bass tournaments, must cast and retrieve using 1 rod/reel at a time, the rod 8' or shorter, no live bait. Lots of rules that level the competitive playing field.

Tom

[J Francho]

I don't fish BASS or FLW events.  The last tournament I won. I threw an umbrella all day.

[flyfisher]

I don't fish BASS or FLW events.  The last tournament I won. I threw an umbrella all day.

Hope that set up was balanced or you might have carpal tunnel syndrome afterwards.....lol

 

I am thinking of getting an A-rig to try out this year but we will see if i ever do and actually chuck one.  it is a lot of hooks to have to manage in a kayak 

[J Francho]

Yawn....I'm so tired of "fatigue" posts, lol.

 

My right fore arm, and left triceps were a little sore the next day. No biggie, I recovered.  I think I use my 7'6" Deep South XXXH flipping stick that day, with a TD-X 103HSDL and 65# braid.  Yanking 17 Lbs. of smallies out of the Oneida was more work than chucking the rig, lol.

 

The hardest part of that day was coutning it down to 12-14 FOW, then reeling in.

[slimshad]

It hurt me when I threw the big stuff at Guntersville.  I had to put it down and chunk traps for 30 minute breaks.  I had the big shadolicious baits on all JWill hooks.  That dude was a beast.  Caught several 5 pounders and a double with a 3 and a 4 pounder that day.  They just hit it like a truck going the other way.  I don't care if the big tournys ban it, I just think it is uncalled for.  It is "ONE" bait in my book.  I tie it on one eyelet and throw it  like a spinnerbait.

[J Francho]

Carolina rigs give me brain fatigue.

[Tim Kelly]

If throwing an A-rig is too much like hard work NEVER go muskie fishing! LOL

[flyfisher]

Yawn....I'm so tired of "fatigue" posts, lol.

 

My right fore arm, and left triceps were a little sore the next day. No biggie, I recovered.  I think I use my 7'6" Deep South XXXH flipping stick that day, with a TD-X 103HSDL and 65# braid.  Yanking 17 Lbs. of smallies out of the Oneida was more work than chucking the rig, lol.

 

The hardest part of that day was coutning it down to 12-14 FOW, then reeling in.

It was said tongue in cheek....i always laugh at those same posts.  

[ColdSVT]

I have yet to hook up on an A rig...im tryin though!

[Brian6428]

Hope that set up was balanced or you might have carpal tunnel syndrome afterwards.....lol

 

I am thinking of getting an A-rig to try out this year but we will see if i ever do and actually chuck one.  it is a lot of hooks to have to manage in a kayak 

So the real question....what weight fly rod are you gonna be throwing that A-rig on?

[Montanaro]

I've watched numerous shows, tournaments, and youtube videos of a rigs.

A large number of bass brought in are snagged from trying to bust the bait ball. Simply not sporting or ethical.

[flyfisher]

So the real question....what weight fly rod are you gonna be throwing that A-rig on?

you joke but i have seen guys tie up A rig type flies.....i have a rod that could handle it but doesn't equate well to a fly rod lol  

[greentrout]

I've watched numerous shows, tournaments, and youtube videos of a rigs.

A large number of bass brought in are snagged from trying to bust the bait ball. Simply not sporting or ethical.

Ditto...a cheap and lazy way to fish leaving little to the imagination...

 

Old school basser...

[Jrob78]

I imagine "long lining/strolling" or whatever you call it will be next.  As long as everyone plays by the same rules, it really doesn't matter.  I mean, the Elite Series doesn't allow nets and doesn't have co-anglers, FLW does.  Them's the rules.  It is a non-issue and definitely doesn't effect my fishing.