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Just a thought. Does anyone have any input on a bank fisherman trying to hitch a ride with a solo boater in a bass boat or a small group in a larger boat that has room for one more at the boat launch? It's something that's crossed my mind a few times the last few times I've bank fished lakes. Some of the conditions that I've come up with for myself to the would-be boat operator are, in no particular order:

 

  • Unless you specifically ask me, I won't dictate at all where to go, maneuvering adjustments to make, etc. I'm just along for the ride, and trying to walk on water isn't going so well. Want me to fish back of boat? Sure. Are you a back of boat guy yourself? Cool, I'll take the front. Want me to drive the boat while you sit back and relax? Maybe you should think twice about that one, largest motor I've ever operated is a 50 on a 14-foot aluminum boat.
  • I'm willing to negotiate a price if you want cash money. I'm thinking for the lakes around here, $5-10 seems reasonable, as I'm really trying to be as unobtrusive as possible to you.
  • If you want, and I'm ok with you throwing it, I'll give you access to my tackle bag and soft plastics. If I think you're trying to throw my entire collection of GYCBs or Lucky Crafts overboard, I might say something. This is mostly a "Hey, I've thought about getting that, can I give it a try?" sort of thing. Most likely, I won't ask to access yours.
  • If you're a fish keeper, I don't really think there's a way for one person to come home with two people's worth of fish legally, since I'm usually 100% C&R. But seeing as nobody ever seems to get a limit around here for some reason, I'd be more than happy to donate my fish to you until you hit the limit. I suppose we'll have to start culling once we hit the (usually) 8 fish a day limit, but the slot should help us a lot with that.
  • I'll bring my own PFD, bug spray, etc. All you have to do is cart me along wherever you go.
  • If you need me to net a fish for you, I'll drop whatever I'm doing and help you out. Same goes for any other partner tasks you might need me to do.
  • Unfortunately, I'm not really that experienced with putting in and taking out boats. Seeing as you originally planned to launch and recover the boat by yourself, it might be best if I just step to the side for this. But if you can delegate a simpler task in the processes, I'll be more than happy to help, and always willing to get more experience.

Basically, I guess I'm saying that I'm willing to pay a nominal amount to be a co-angler for solo boaters that I meet at the launch? I guess this is kind of the opposite of guiding? Hahaha. I figure most solo boaters around here would be happy to have some educated company to chat fishing with that isn't HURR DURR WORM, BOBBER AND PAINT BUCKET. Perhaps we should set ground rules of no politics or religion... I've found that my personal views often don't exactly align with the majority of Southern outdoorsmen. But at least we clearly have a love of fishing in common.

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Good luck with that idea.  No one that I don't know is going anywhere in my boat, too much liability involved.

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I'm pretty open to sharing a backseat with a stranger when I'm out prefishing.  I prefer that angler would respond to a post on a local forum offering a ride for a share of fuel costs rather than hit me up at the ramp. 

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No offense, but I wouldn't be picking anyone up at the ramp...

 

I know plenty of fisherman, if I wanted a partner on a particular day I'd have one.  I enjoy fishing alone, I enjoy having a co-angler too...But if I'm out there alone it's because I want to be. If it's not a tournament, I'm usually alone.  

 

Your list of offerings is basically the same things you would be doing in a club...Why not look for a local club?  Then you would get to know the boaters and wouldn't have to hitchhike.  There's also the added benefit of making friends, tournaments, learning, and a regular schedule of events.  Just a suggestion :)

 

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Had a nice older couple ask me if I would like to go with them down in the gulf.  I was dead set on going but the wife said ABSOLUTLY NOT. lol  She said thats the stuff you read or see on the news.  They were putting fresh snapper on a grill outside our condo.  I went over to talk fishing.  They would have been great and I would have had a blst.  Dang women...  Sorry not the OP's original question but kinda sorta.  I would not feel comfortable taking a complete stranger from a ramp with me.  Off of a forum or meeting them first somewhere maybe.  At least a forum you can check out their posts and see what kind of person they are....

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I wont take someone I 100% do not know fishing... I have taken people I don't know very well fishing from my school but I've at least introduced myself, know who they are and how they act. I tell them get a fishing license and be at the ramp at X time and we'll go catch em!

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If you looked like a creeper or possible trouble, most definatly not. If my kids are in the boat, definatly not. Those come to mind. Now if ive been out fishin several times an noticed your presence a few times, your dressed in clean decent clothes, and maybe we chatted a time or 2 at the ramp before being asked. I probably would think about it. by nature im different than most.

When i was walking the banks from age 7- oh say 11, i always wanted to ask aswell. I know where your coming from.

Plus if i thought i made a mistake by letting you on, id turn the trollin motor on high an toss ya out, lol

Posted

thats a tough one.  i have thought about asking some bank fisherman to join me in my canoe. but then reconsidered just like bluegiller said  "too many wackos out their"  so i wouldnt have a clue how you acted in a canoe/ boat that seals the deal for me. i dont want to deal with someone who falls in or tips the canoe.  id rather it be someone from a bassclub i joined or a forum 

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I have done it..... Picked up a bank fishermen I don't know, that is. I have nothing to worry about. If they are bass fishing, and I am bass fishing, we already have something in common. I have made a couple of friends this way too. What is the worst thing that could happen. So far no one has really tried messing with the 6'+, 325 lb guy who shaves his head, talks to himself and yells a lot.

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Everytime I fish an FLW tournament as a coangler this is exactly what I do.  The only time I have had anyone tell me no is when they already had a practice partner scheduled for the day.  Be friendly, organized, and offer to split gas costs.  I typically give $40, but a lot of the guys I fish with have traveled hundreds of miles to fish.  If I were you I would give $20 everytime.  It's also important to understand everyone fishes differently.  Some guys will camp on one spot and fish 4 hours whereas another guy may parallel the bank fishing a crankbait with the trolling motor on high.  It's easy to get frustrated and upset leading you to blame the boater.  Don't.  Take it as a challenge, learn how/why the are or aren't catching fish and figure out a way to effectively fish behind them. 

 

Good luck and good fishing.

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I understand the caution, especially since I'm an avatarless person on an internet forum. Here's a photo of me when I was working as a freelance photojournalist for the Roanoke Times at the 2013 ACC Men's Basketball Tournament in Charlotte, NC, scouting out aerial angles.

 

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I think it would take probably 10 seconds, if not less, of talking with me to realize that I'm not looking for a way to send your body to the depths of the lake. I know there's a lot of shady types that also happen to enjoy bass fishing. I'd like to think that I don't give off that vibe. Worst thing you can do is say no, and I'll tell you thanks and tight lines, and I'll ask the next guy who comes along who doesn't look like he'll push ME into the depths of the lake.

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I boat alone quite a bit and bank fish quite a bit, depending on how ambitious I am that day, or how much time I have.

I feel like it would be pushing it a bit for a bank fisherman to approach a complete stranger about hitching a ride. Puts the boater in an awkward position. If it were a situation like someone mentioned earlier where it was a bank fisherman that the boater had previous friendly interactions with, it might be something to discuss, but maybe plan it for the next time out so that you can make sure you are both on the same page about the details (how long on the water; practicing new techniques versus just trying to catch for fun; gas money; etc...).

I've been creeping along the bank and had a couple of bass fishermen on boats ask me if I would like to hop on for a while. I genuinely appreciated the offer, but usually when I'm bank fishing, I'm pushing my luck time-wise as it is, so I thank them and decline.

This kind of thing is probably addressed more formally on message boards. I know on a catfish board I'm on non-boaters hook up with boaters once in a while, and it usually turns out pretty good based on their reports.

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I wouldn't expect to have too much success doing this, but it may be worth a shot. Be well dressed, clean cut, and respectful. Don't be persistent if they say no or start making excuses, just tell them good luck and walk away. Also, let them know you aren't a freeloader.

You would have better luck trying to meet up with somebody on here. Go to the local fishing forums and give it a shot.

Also, put your location on your profile. That will help

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Best to set something up ahead of time on local boards, if such exist.  Around here it is not a "nominal fee" that a rider pays, it is both permits and the launch fee: $23.  Plus it is a good idea to put some cash toward gas.  The boat operator has a ton of expenses that most non-boat owners never think about.  You need to be an asset, not just a ride-along.

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When I fished BFL's as a co-angler I found it fairly easy to snag a ride in the days leading up to the event.

Generally it was a guy staying at the same motel I was.  All those guys had seen me around, etc.  I generally stayed in touch with all the different guys I snagged a ride with and drew as a co-angler and over time it became easier to get on the water prior to a tournament, for pre-fishing and  just getting out on different bodies of water.  I would point out that I wasn't young when I was doing this - I was in my mid-40's to early 50's, so I looked pretty harmless.

 

I don't know about snagging rides outside of a tournament situation.  Good luck with that.  I know that if you are personable and polite, people will often want to help you.

 

When I was in college, I went fishing with several of my professors, eventually ending up with professors who weren't anywhere near my major, we just liked to fish together.

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The boat is nearing completion.  I do not know if I'll get it out on the water this year, but it will be ready next year if not.

 

Last time I went out fishing on the weekend, I saw some kids (teens) fishing.  One was throwing a topwater frog while the others were bait fishing.

 

I am a substitute teacher, or am when time allows.  I would be a teacher full-time if it weren't for all the idiotic regulations getting in the way these days.  I would be fired.  Subs can get away with more stuff.  Hell, I was sparring in class once with a kid who was in taekwondo.  Probably not the brightest thing I've ever done, but it was fun.

 

I come from a family of educators and this is probably where my "how-to" articles come from.  

 

At any rate, I felt for those teens.  It looked like they were trying, but just weren't catching anything.  (That was the only day this year I got "skunked" as well.)

 

I would likely invite them to pile in.  No drugs, no cigs, booze.  Why no cigs?  'Cause I won't card you and don't want to be busted.

 

I have a real problem with folks trying to invite themselves, though.  Canoes and kayaks are not overly expensive, and if it's important to you you'll find one cheap.  Heck, even inflatables work.

 

Josh 

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When I moved back to KC from ATL I bought a new boat. I posted an add on Craigslist sporting goods section looking for a fishing partner to split gas with. I had two people reply and one of them is my Tourny partner for the past four years! 

 

The first time we spoke over the phone we set up a place to meet and chat and have a few beers. His wife was kinda leery to say the least but we have fished over 50 times since then. 

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daniel, my only input is to act a little less like this is a negotiation so to speak.  if you get picked up, you will be at the mercy of whomever picks you up, PERIOD.  just from your initial post, you seemed to think a negotiation would ensue over costs, position of boat, technique, etc.  go into the situation open minded and looking to learn from someone and you should really enjoy yourself should someone pick you up.

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daniel, my only input is to act a little less like this is a negotiation so to speak.  if you get picked up, you will be at the mercy of whomever picks you up, PERIOD.  just from your initial post, you seemed to think a negotiation would ensue over costs, position of boat, technique, etc.  go into the situation open minded and looking to learn from someone and you should really enjoy yourself should someone pick you up.

I agree if you are out with me fishing for the first time on my boat, I expect you to follow my rules period. I have a neighbor that's never been back out after a trip a few years ago and he doesn't even bother to ask about going out because of his mouth. 

 

It also helps if you know how to back up a boat trailer to assist your partner!

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Posted

Join a local bass fishing club and become a back seater.

Tom

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Networking through clubs, tourneys, forums gatherings etc. and being helpful where you can will likely get you more invites than lurking at the ramp. I'd me more concerned about becoming fish food myself than scaring someone else. 

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No offense, but I wouldn't be picking anyone up at the ramp...

I know plenty of fisherman, if I wanted a partner on a particular day I'd have one. I enjoy fishing alone, I enjoy having a co-angler too...But if I'm out there alone it's because I want to be. If it's not a tournament, I'm usually alone.

Your list of offerings is basically the same things you would be doing in a club...Why not look for a local club? Then you would get to know the boaters and wouldn't have to hitchhike. There's also the added benefit of making friends, tournaments, learning, and a regular schedule of events. Just a suggestion :)

I agree. I once invited a guy to fish from my boat who was struggling with a trolling motor that was not big enough to manage the wind. We had a good day of fishing. I did the asking though. I don't mind helping or giving away baits from time to time, but if you ask me at the ramp I will tell you no. Offering 5 or 10 dollars to cover expenses may get a laugh, but is not likely to change anyone's mind.

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Since you're asking, I guess I'll volunteer my thoughts.  It really doesn't take a great deal for someone to move from the "complete stranger" category to the "Okay, I know you now.  You seem harmless enough" category.  Not much at all.  And assuming someone doesn't get on my nerves (I'll admit this isn't always easy), they would be welcome to tag along.  Having said this, however, I would not be very inclined to allow someone on my boat who just walks up to me and asks for a ride.  There is something very odd to me about such an arrangement and it would make me rather uncomfortable.  Just as when someone on the street tries to speak with me.  I shy away.  Not everyone feels this way but I do.

 

But who's to say the boater is someone YOU would want to bum a ride from?  I'd like to believe all fishermen are cool but judging simply from the amount of discarded bait containers and fishing line there is, this obviously isn't true.  Fishermen are people and some people are not to be trusted. I would not subject myself to the mercy of someone I didn't know at all.  Wasn't Jeffrey Dalmer a fisherman?  (This is a rhetorical question to make my point).

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