Tugmaster Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 So, I just started fishing with Super Flukes. I'm trying to absorb as much as I can on the subject. I was watching a YouTube video where the guy was really into using a weighted swimbait hook for Fluke fishing. I went down to Dicks and picked up some 4/0 16/th oz. Gammy swimbait hooks. I'm gonna give them a whirl this weekend. Does anyone else use these? I know there are a ton of different ways to fish them and a weightless Texas rig seems to be the most popular. Thanks, Todd Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted September 25, 2014 Global Moderator Posted September 25, 2014 I have, But I'll only use a belly weighted hook in open water. When in thicker vegetation I use a nail weight in 1/16 or 1/32 oz. A finishing nail works just as well also. Mike Quote
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted September 25, 2014 Super User Posted September 25, 2014 The less weight the better. If you have to use a weight, put a split shot several feet ahead of the lure. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted September 25, 2014 Super User Posted September 25, 2014 i only use those type of hooks on rivers when dealing with current. never felt a need to weight them otherwise because they will sink, just slowly and that action alone helps with catching in my opinion and teaches you to be patient lol 2 Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted September 25, 2014 Super User Posted September 25, 2014 I never use weight, the weight kills the gliding action and even a small amount of weight hampers the action. Instead try using a size 6 or 8 crane swivel tied 10" above the fluke, it will add a little weight and keep your line from twisting. Quote
Jolly Green Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 I use 1/16th oz. weighted hooks only for fishing around a current, otherwise the slow dropping tail-flutter of a weightless fluke is my preference. If you're new to flukes, don't sleep on the 4" Jr. size. I kill 'em on plain old white rigged on a 3/0 hook. Quote
TheSmilingSwordsman Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 If I want a weight I just use a heavier swivel. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted September 26, 2014 Super User Posted September 26, 2014 I never use a weight with a Fluke. For me, the slow fall and gliding action is what makes the Fluke a great bait. If I were going to weight a Fluke I would put it on a jig head. I will use a Fluke on a split shot rig or C-rig but the weight is still off the bait a bit. Quote
shanksmare Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 If the hook is properly weighted the super fluke will still fall with a gliding, tail fluttering action ... only a little faster and with a little more action. I use a 3/0 1/8th oz weighted EWG hook (either an H & H Flutter hook or a BPS vertical drop hook) with good results. Most weighted swimbait hooks don't work well since the weight is too concentrated in one spot (?my belief?). This causes the fluke to fall like a rock instead of with the desired gliding, fluttering action. You can always try testing various hook sizes and weights in a swimming pool or clear water scenerio to see if you are achieving the desired results. 1 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted September 26, 2014 Super User Posted September 26, 2014 One more "no" vote here. A weight will make the fluke lose that death spiral as it sinks. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted September 26, 2014 Super User Posted September 26, 2014 I put a fluke on a split shot rig once and it worked pretty good! Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted September 26, 2014 Super User Posted September 26, 2014 I use the vmc drop dead hooks in 1/16th oz. 1 Quote
Big Swimbait Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 I will sometimes use Gene Sisson's Dangleberry Rig. The sliding weight on the hook shank gives the bait a different darting move with every rod movement. Google it because the forum won't let me post the link. Quote
mod479 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 I use them a lot in the rivers I fish, can really make them dance without busting outta the water on surface. I don't like screw on swimbait hooks for flukes. I use 1/8 and 1/4oz keel weighted superline EWGs. Still spirals down fine for me, just not as slow... with a D-shad it sinks so fast it will flap the straight tail. Take your time rigging them up or you'll be wasting baits. If it spins when you just reel it in slow, its not rigged straight. Had more luck this season with weighted hooks than weightless, last year I killed them nose hooking weightless on a 1/0 gammie dropshot hook. Really depends on what "fluke" style bait I'm using. Zoom fluke I tend to run weightless on a skip gap, TS Schooling minnow I use weighted hooks, D-Shads I use both. Quote
BasshunterJGH Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 I use the Yamamoto d-shads. They're more dense then the flukes so you don't need any weight to keep them under the surface in my experience. 1 Quote
Tugmaster Posted September 28, 2014 Author Posted September 28, 2014 I tried the weighted hooks yesterday. No where near the same action as weightless! I switched back to a regular EWG hook. Had a great day! Todd Quote
Crankinstein Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 I never use weight, the weight kills the gliding action and even a small amount of weight hampers the action. Instead try using a size 6 or 8 crane swivel tied 10" above the fluke, it will add a little weight and keep your line from twisting. X2 on this. A great technique for making it easier to cast weightless flukes and other weightless baits. Makes it easier to switch out leaders too. A Palomar knot or an improved clinch knot is just easier for me to tie than one of the line to line knots. I use a large barrel swivel most of the time. Quote
lavbasser Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 There was an interesting article about Lee Sisson's weighted hook rig for fluke fishing a few years ago in Bassmasters. It was called the Dangle Berry rig. You can find it online. Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted September 29, 2014 Super User Posted September 29, 2014 I use the vmc drop dead hooks in 1/16th oz. x2 Quote
Bassun Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 It looks like I may be one of the exceptions as I tend to fish the fluke shallow and fast, usually getting more hits off of the twitching and gliding vs deadstick falling. I almost always fish them with unweighted hooks, tied directly with no swivel, etc. However if I am trying to fish the fluke deep, I use a belly weighted hook. I don't find it as successful overall, but if I need to fish deep I have better success with the weighted hook vs no wieght, but I think that is more of a reflection on how I tend to fish the fluke as if I am having to go deep, then that means my preferred haunts are not holding fish. Usually if I am having to let the fluke just drop, I end up grabbing a worm or some sort or a jig. I will say that pegging a small weight, or using a nail weight does work great if you have fish holding deeper in grass. I find the extra weight at the head seems to pop through the grass better and I usually end up dragging less back with each retrieve. I think that it is actually because the forward weight keeps the twitches less sharp and deadens the action a bit, but that in itself seems to keep me from wraping up in as much grass. So I guess I agree with most, actually, that no weight is my prefered method most of the time; but I think there are times when weighting a fluke the right way makes all the difference. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted September 29, 2014 Super User Posted September 29, 2014 I'm with flyfisher on this one. Keel weighted hooks in current, other wise unweighted. Quote
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