Super User J Francho Posted September 25, 2014 Super User Posted September 25, 2014 Not all bass have potential because they are limited by environmental factor and growth rate through out their life. Bass grow their entire life, except for the very end, when they shrink a bit. To get a truly big big fish has nothing to do with temperament or genes, barring any genetic issue. It's about environment. I'm selling on the aggression/catch-ability notion. It's bad science in my book. The only way to make that correlation is if every fish is caught at least once. Most are not caught. Ever. It was always better way back when.... I don't agree. That might be true of some places, but most often, people do the same thing over and over, and things change. Don't adjust, and it was always better back when you didn't have to think about trying something new. Most of the places I fish are better now than they were in 70s, when I was a little kid. As far as private ponds and likelihood of catching big fish, well that's just law of averages and confines. Why is it some of the most heavily trafficked lakes are the ones that put out huge fish so consistently? Because they are fish factories, that have all the environmental factors in place to produce big fish. Not special genetics, not because they aren't fished...food, cover, comfortable temperatures, room to grow. 1 Quote
shanksmare Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Not all bass have potential because they are limited by environmental factor and growth rate through out their life. Bass grow their entire life, except for the very end, when they shrink a bit. To get a truly big big fish has nothing to do with temperament or genes, barring any genetic issue. It's about environment. I'm selling on the aggression/catch-ability notion. It's bad science in my book. The only way to make that correlation is if every fish is caught at least once. Most are not caught. Ever. So why do some bass grow larger than others. Based on your logic shouldn't all the bass in a pond/lake that are the same age be the same size? It was always better way back when.... I don't agree. That might be true of some places, but most often, people do the same thing over and over, and things change. Don't adjust, and it was always better back when you didn't have to think about trying something new. Most of the places I fish are better now than they were in 70s, when I was a little kid. Since 2000 only 4 state records have been broken. It would be interesting to compare how the average size of bass in tournaments has changed over the years. At least it is hard data not just anecdotal info. As far as private ponds and likelihood of catching big fish, well that's just law of averages and confines. Why is it some of the most heavily trafficked lakes are the ones that put out huge fish so consistently? Because they are fish factories, that have all the environmental factors in place to produce big fish. Not special genetics, not because they aren't fished...food, cover, comfortable temperatures, room to grow. Just how many 10 lbers do lakes like Okechobee, Toho, Seminole, etc give up? I think that most of the over 10 lb bass are caught in the little nondescript ponds, lakes and canals with less fishing pressure. Quote
einscodek Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 I agree you wanna fish in a good watershed capable of supporting sizable fishes..but for me I'd add lower fishing pressure as well Several state records in the NE .. low key ponds .. no big names there NJ (Menantico Pond) MASS (small pond on the Agawam River chain just below Glen Charlie Pond) CONN (Mashapaug Pond) NY (private pond) New Hampshire (Potanipo Pond) Maine (Moose Pond) Looks like you want a 10 pounder in the NE, fish in a place called a "pond" ..and by the looks of it, you wanna catch something in the 25"+ size and preferably in the colder months Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 25, 2014 Super User Posted September 25, 2014 I think you answered your own question. Fish are not all the same age, and not all fish in the lake have the same opportunities. Quote
Mainebass1984 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Posted September 27, 2014 I agree you wanna fish in a good watershed capable of supporting sizable fishes..but for me I'd add lower fishing pressure as well Several state records in the NE .. low key ponds .. no big names there NJ (Menantico Pond) MASS (small pond on the Agawam River chain just below Glen Charlie Pond) CONN (Mashapaug Pond) NY (private pond) New Hampshire (Potanipo Pond) Maine (Moose Pond) Looks like you want a 10 pounder in the NE, fish in a place called a "pond" ..and by the looks of it, you wanna catch something in the 25"+ size and preferably in the colder months Moose Pond is more like a lake. Supposedly the state record wasn't even caught there. Robert Kamp caught it out of a small small pond near where I live. He didn't want it to the publicity. I live 5 mins from Moose Pond. That place gets a ton of pressure and tournaments. He didn't catch it from Moose Pond. He lived right down the road from me. He was quite the character. Quote
bobh64 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Here's a 10 pound fish off a New Hampshire pond on Tuesday by my friend Ed 10.01 lbs 25 inches long 18 inch girth Just missed the state record by 8 ounces He is going to have it mounted by the same gentleman that does all the mounts for Cabela's 5 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted October 8, 2014 Super User Posted October 8, 2014 A Real Trophy ! Congrats to him A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 8, 2014 Super User Posted October 8, 2014 That thing's a stud! 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted October 8, 2014 Super User Posted October 8, 2014 New England slobasaurus. 2 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted October 8, 2014 Super User Posted October 8, 2014 Wow that's a hawg and a half man! 1 Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted October 8, 2014 Super User Posted October 8, 2014 Dang nice fish for sure! Jeff Quote
bobh64 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Ed said he is humbled by all the kind words he doesn't have a computer to follow this thread. 3 Quote
Smokinal Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Ya that's a giant anywhere you go...nevermind New England! 1 Quote
einscodek Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 why not throw it back, make a replica and catch it later on after it packed on another 9 ounces? Quote
Smokinal Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 why not throw it back, make a replica and catch it later on after it packed on another 9 ounces? If only it were that easy.... 1 Quote
bobh64 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 If only it were that easy.... He did keep it alive in the pond while he called several people asking opinions on the matter replicas are nice but they never replace a catch of the life time from our waters. I'm just happy for the guy even though I work with him so this is all i'm going to hear when he comes back next week from vacation. He went with his buddy the next day and caught a 7.9 lb largemouth 10 feet from where he caught the 10 pound fish. Quote
MassBass Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Whoa thats a hawg pounder even right there Quote
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