7 To 1 Spinning Reel?

[WdyCrankbait]

Hey Everyone,

    I had a quick thought that I wanted to ask and see if anyone knows of a 7 to 1 spinning reel now/on horizon?  With casting reels pushing 8 and 9-to-1 I was wondering if manufactures were thinking about now pushing spinning reels.  

    I was fishing for smallmouth this past Saturday "yo-yoing," a creature bait and sometimes those smallies were faster then my 6.2 to 1 Supreme XT reel to retrieve line.  I know the gear ratio is not the important number, but the IPT are.  But, more speed in a spinning reel could help me out in certain situations.  

    

 

Thanks,

Wdy

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

A Stradic 2500 picks up 34 IPT. That's as fast as most of the high speed casting reels. An E7 does 30 IPT. What situations are you looking for help in?

[EvanT123]

Yea I dunno. Never really had a problem with speed. I'd rather see shimano offer the 5.2/1 in some us offerings.

Yoyo'ing a bait. I know what you mean but how were the smallmouth faster than you? Once they were hooked ?

[papajoe222]

They were likely picking up the bait and either running toward the boat with it, or rising faster than he could reel.  Great post as one of the reasons I got away from using spinning gear was the slow retrieve rate on many of the older reels.

[WdyCrankbait]

Evan, yeah Papa got it.  I was lifting the rod tip say a foot or two feet-ish, then letting it fall and usually by the time I reeled in the slack a smallie would already be on it. (T-rigged Zoom Ultravibe Speed craw, or Gambler Little Otter, picture included which I used for only 2 hours.)  I fished a part of the Upper James River that does not see a lot of pressure. (My two friends and I must have caught/hooked up with about 75 in a 9 hour float trip.)  As well, samething when I threw a weightless senko behind a riffle, that big letter "S," the current makes out of your line once it hits the water.

 

Mike, as always, you are the man.  Those Stradic IPT numbers are what I would like to see, something I could get the slack out of the line faster to make contact with the bait faster.  I would like a lighter reel then that one, but it is good to see I can get higher retrieve rates. 

 

Thanks everyone,

Wdy

[SirSnookalot]

I can't think of a good answer or a calculation.  IPT will vary with the amount of line on the spool.  To figure the speed needed to reel up the slack of a hooked fish swimming towards you,  one would have to factor how fast the reel handle is being turned as well.  Computing this is way over my head, but what isn't over my head is catching fish that can swim very fast, 20-30 and 40 mph is very common here and at times they do swim at you.  The one thing I do know for sure, I can't reel in faster than some of these fish can swim, yet most of them are landed if hooked well.

Personally I'd just would react to the situation and keep using the same reel.  The scenario you described sounds like a lot fun, I'd be embracing that challenge not looking to make it easier.

[WdyCrankbait]

Snook,

 

   I was more curious about the speeds then anything with the casting reels getting faster from say 3 years ago.  Plus, I missed another 15 smallies that I feel if I had a faster reel I would have caught, or had a better chance against.  So, my post was more based on curiosity and more importantly greed wanting to catch all the smallies I hooked up with, hahah!

   I embrace it, that was the best day of fishing I have ever had!  I hooked one smallie about 10 feet from the kayak I was sitting in and he jumped higher then I was sitting.  Meaning, I was looking up at him sitting in the kayak.  I'm 6'-4", and sitting down, he must have jumped 2 to 3 feet out of the water.  Impressive smallie!!

[SirSnookalot]

I honestly think you have good reel right now.  Using a reel with a little more IPT and higher ratio cranked at the same rate may pick up a little more slack, how much I don't know.  I still think the bottom line is cranking faster whatever you're using.

[J Francho]

Your issue is exactly why I picked my CI4 spinners.  They pick up about 6" per turn more line than my old reels.

[timsford]

If you want high ipt in a spinning reel pick up a lews high speed spin or team gold spinning in the 300 size. They have 34 ipt and weigh less than the stradic. Very smooth solid reels too. The high speed spin weighs 8.4 oz and the gold weighs less than 8. Ipt is determined by spool size. Thats why i stay away from pfleuger, their spool diameter is too small for me because i fish for stripers a lot and need a higher capacity reel. The hs spin reel goes for 80 new and the gold goes for 130. I have several of both and have never had a problem even reeling in large stripers and wipers, so they will definitely handle smallies

[adam32]

If a smallmouth is swimming at you and you're reeling as fast as possible I doubt a higher gear ratio would make any difference. Especially 5 or 6 inches per handle turn. I like my older daiwas with the 4.8:1 ratio much better than my shimanos with 6:1. The higher gears are good for burning a buzzbait in current, but I like the 4.8:1 daiwas better for everything else. Plus the lower geared daiwas are so smooooth.

[J Francho]

I too, have both Daiwa and Shimano spinning reels, and I can tell you for sure, an extra 6" per turn does make a difference. It's not a magic bullet, but it's a big improvement. I used to order shorter handles for the Daiwas. Not necessary with a 2500/3000 size CI4.

[SirSnookalot]

If a smallmouth is swimming at you and you're reeling as fast as possible I doubt a higher gear ratio would make any difference. Especially 5 or 6 inches per handle turn. I like my older daiwas with the 4.8:1 ratio much better than my shimanos with 6:1. The higher gears are good for burning a buzzbait in current, but I like the 4.8:1 daiwas better for everything else. Plus the lower geared daiwas are so smooooth.

I tend to agree but an extra 6" certainly can't hurt, how much of a benefit I can't really answer.  I haven't fished for smb in the last 10 years.  I do have species down here that make multiple jumps, and can swim at you at pretty good rate of speed.  I don't have any technical data floating in my mind when I have a fish on, I just land them best of my ability, no one lands them all.

 

I too, have both Daiwa and Shimano spinning reels, and I can tell you for sure, an extra 6" per turn does make a difference. It's not a magic bullet, but it's a big improvement. I used to order shorter handles for the Daiwas. Not necessary with a 2500/3000 size CI4.

Your a good enough fisherman to land them with any reel.  If 34 IPT is working better, well ya gotta use something, so why not use the Shimano if you have more confidence.