Super User tcbass Posted September 12, 2014 Super User Posted September 12, 2014 A lot of people on here say something like, "I just bought a Zara Spook and have a lot of bites but few hookups." And then people reply with, "O, I always change Zara Spook hooks out right away because they aren't any good from the factory. I switch them out with Mustad or Gamakatsus." However, that person rarely states what size replacement they are using. Since there is a plethora of replacement sizes that leaves one at the store or catalog looking at 100 different hook sizes and no clue on which one to get other than the recommended brand. So, if you are going to recommend a hook replacement for a certain lure can you please not only add the brand but also the hook size replacement for that particular lure. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted September 12, 2014 Super User Posted September 12, 2014 I usually just match the new hooks size to the stock hooks, however I know plenty who go up and down sizes... Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted September 12, 2014 Super User Posted September 12, 2014 Put in a little foot work man. It's very simple to find the stock hook sizes of most baits. TW usually has it listed under description. It would take less time to look it up verse writing this post. As for brand,pick one. Gamakatsu,owner,and mustad are your top 3 choices. As for size,stock or 1 size larger is what most people do. Some however go down in size to alter the baits sink rate or action. The internet is full of answers to just about anything you'd want to know. 4 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted September 12, 2014 Super User Posted September 12, 2014 However, that person rarely states what size replacement they are using. Since there is a plethora of replacement sizes that leaves one at the store or catalog looking at 100 different hook sizes and no clue on which one to get other than the recommended brand. So, if you are going to recommend a hook replacement for a certain lure can you please not only add the brand but also the hook size replacement for that particular lure. Dude come on, there are like 3 sizes of hooks on 95% of hardbaits. 6, 4 and 2. 6 is the smallest and 2 is the largest. Spend some time learning your gear and you won't have to ask so many basic questions online. 1 Quote
Super User tcbass Posted September 12, 2014 Author Super User Posted September 12, 2014 Put in a little foot work man. It's very simple to find the stock hook sizes of most baits. TW usually has it listed under description. It would take less time to look it up verse writing this post. As for brand,pick one. Gamakatsu,owner,and mustad are your top 3 choices. As for size,stock or 1 size larger is what most people do. Some however go down in size to alter the baits sink rate or action. The internet is full of answers to just about anything you'd want to know. Well if someone is going to recommend a hook brand for a lure that they normally swap out why don't they say something like, "When I switch out hooks for a Zara Spook I normally use a Owner 4/0 treble although some go bigger or smaller." since you are helping with recommending a brand why not the size also so that person didn't have to search all over the internet for the rest of the answer. If someone is looking for help why make them search all over? Just help them out. lol. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 Come on guys don't be so harsh, he isn't familiar with hook sizes and asked a simple question that needed a simple answer... Quote
Super User tcbass Posted September 13, 2014 Author Super User Posted September 13, 2014 Come on guys don't be so harsh, he isn't familiar with hook sizes and asked a simple question that needed a simple answer... Thank you. It isn't even for me. I'm not replacing and hooks. But I see people ask this question often and they only get a brand not size. It's like someone asking for directions and the only response is buy a map. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 I don't know. I guess I just prefer to get the answer on my own if at all possible verses asking questions that the answer can be found pretty easily. I like to think that I'm fairly active on here as far as offering help and insight where I can but some of the questions seem like no brainers to me. If I need info on a bait, I google it. If I'm not satisfied with what I've found and still need something answered then I'll ask here or whatever forum pertains to what I'm looking for. Come on guys don't be so harsh, he isn't familiar with hook sizes and asked a simple question that needed a simple answer... And how do you get familiar with something you don't know anything about? Look it up. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 To me if someone asks what hook to replace XXX bait with i am assuming they are not asking for the size because they would have asked that too.... Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 I would just hate for some people to be afraid to ask questions on here because they think people will look down on it as a "dumb question". What's basic to you might not be basic to someone else. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 I would just hate for some people to be afraid to ask questions on here because they think people will look down on it as a "dumb question". What's basic to you might not be basic to someone else. your point is valid but in the case of hook size on an existing bait, it is pretty easy to find that info. it is usually on the packaging and on pretty much every website that sells the bait. Also, while there may be no "dumb" questions as the saying goes, there is a caveat to the statement that not many people know about, it says this is assuming you have exhausted your own options to find the answer Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 Yes, it is true that information is easy to obtain. Just saying things like "dude come on" makes it sound like hook sizes should be common knowledge (which it is for experienced anglers). Guess that's just my .02 cents no need to start a debate over something silly like this haha Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 Too many people seem to want to ask questions without reading first, (I'm speaking in general, not about the OP.) It just seems like a lot of people have lost the ability to think for themselves. When I start into a new venture I read everything I can find. I want to learn everything I possibly can, I don't understand people who don't have that same point of view. People are getting lazier and dumber. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 Yes, it is true that information is easy to obtain. Just saying things like "dude come on" makes it sound like hook sizes should be common knowledge (which it is for experienced anglers). Guess that's just my .02 cents no need to start a debate over something silly like this haha If you're going to be changing out hooks on baits, hook sizes should be common knowledge. You should have figured that out before you started. Expecting people to list hook sizes when they recommend swapping hooks is silly and lazy. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 Well not all anglers can eyeball a hook and say "oh that's a #4". But then again anyone that has access to the internet can find that information. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 i'll be honest, when i changed out the hooks on my x-raps i had to go to the rapala website after measuring the jerk baits to see their length to determine which hook sizes i needed to purchase. 1 Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted September 13, 2014 Super User Posted September 13, 2014 There are also many factors involving a hook changeout ... Cutting point, needle point , or 1x 2x or 3x , what fish type,bait material, where the bait is fished, I have several top water cedar prop baits with 2/0 hooks and the strongest split rings I can find, Those are for Florida waters, sometimes, on many baits it is not a exact science on making that choice, A person has to sometimes divulde a bit more information in order to get the most from other Fisherman, and even then there is always, always a difference in what folks are using... Many elements of the sport, just have to be learned on ones own. Quote
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