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  • Super User
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Seems as though most prefer the heavy power for frog rods, but wondering if others use a MH?  I would like to buy a MH rod if i can get away with it and have it double as another jig rod when i want it to.  would a MH with fast or x fast action be appropriate for the two applications?  rod would likely be somewhere between 7' and 7'3"

thanks for the opinions

 

EDIT: should have added that I do not often fish the super heavy vegitation a lot of frog guys are probably hitting.  but i do fish it a good bit around some other heavy cover....

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  • Super User
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Look into the Black *** rods, you can find something there you are looking for or even the Green.  I was thinking of their 7'2" MH Green *** for a Frog Rod.

  • Super User
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Dobyn's 735c will double as a jig rod and it's my favorite frog rod. It's listed as a MH but that's only because dobyn's doesn't  group their rods together. It's a MH as far as flipping rods go but as a whole it's every bit a H action rod. 

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Seems as though most prefer the heavy power for frog rods, but wondering if others use a MH? 

I use MH fast with 40 lb braid, works great for me.

I would like to buy a MH rod if i can get away with it and have it double as another jig rod when i want it to.  would a MH with fast or x fast action be appropriate for the two applications?

Absolutely !

thanks for the opinions

 

EDIT: should have added that I do not often fish the super heavy vegitation a lot of frog guys are probably

hitting.  but i do fish it a good bit around some other heavy cover....

I throw my frogs in and around cover....mostly in cover. (Laydowns , lily pads ect.).

  • Super User
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sorry guys, perhaps i should have specified.  I am not necessarily looking for brand/specific rod suggestions.  More so, I was looking for the consensus or opinions on using the MH rods vs H rods for frog fishing given that i do not fish ultra heavy vegitation....

Thanks!

  • Super User
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sorry guys, perhaps i should have specified.  I am not necessarily looking for brand/specific rod suggestions.  More so, I was looking for the consensus or opinions on using the MH rods vs H rods for frog fishing given that i do not fish ultra heavy vegitation....

Thanks!

Without getting into specific brands, it is going to be very hard to answer your question, as most mfg's rods vary greatly in power and action.

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I've certainly used MH rods to fish a frog in a pinch but I just prefer my frog rod to be a H powered stick, even in "open water/sparse cover" type situations. This is just my personal preference. You can absolutely use a MH rod for this technique but I'd only go with those that have an XF action. As I said these are just my opinions on the subject and you may find that your preferences are totally different from mine. Good luck in your search. 

  • Super User
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In that case, when frog fishing, I prefer to be "over gunned" rather then "under gunned" i.e if 70% of my frog fishing is open water, I'm still choosing the "H" rod. Since there is no industry standard in rod powers, it's hard to say weather you want a MH or H being you don't want brand advice

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I use a MH-F rod for frogging in open water and heavy veg. - works great for me,

  • Super User
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Without getting into specific brands, it is going to be very hard to answer your question, as most mfg's rods vary greatly in power and action.

This Is Exactly True.

  • Super User
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Each brand is different, but agree, some companies MH are H in others.  I prefer a fast action over XF but that's personal preference.  But it's always going to be a rod that will drive the hook home weather in open water or in vegetation.  

  • Super User
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I prefer a H.

I've used MH rods and still do for smaller frogs but mostly it's heavy action & XF taper. You know it right away when you're outgunned in heavy cover and it's never a good thing.

Stretching it to use a smaller profile to incite hits works, but it can also get you lost fish and for bigger frogs it might not walk them either.

When in doubt, go heavier than you think. It's better to have a little too much than not enough IMO.

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I fished tons of frogs on my MH/ E/F 7'2" Crucial and it always worked just fine. I fish lots of frogs on rods people might consider under powered and have no issues. Even my favorite way to fish a buzz frog is on a spinning reel and glass rod if i can get away with it. Also a lot of times I throw the small frogs on spinning gear even though it is pretty stiff as far as spinning might be concerned.

  • Super User
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Depends on which rod will help  you set the hook and bring the bass to you, be it a medium or medium heavy rod.

 

Check the rod's parameters for its line test and bait weight and match that up with your line and reel.

 

Sometimes you can do great with a medium. Other times you may need an extra heavy depending on the waters you are fishing.

 

I was practicing my frogging in the small lake by my house with a BPS Extreme medium heavy spinning rig for the fun of it and had no problems.

 

So it will be your personal choice as which rod, reel, line test and frog size you use and if you need a 7:1 reel and heavy braid or if you can get away with a 6:? reel and lighter line.

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Right now I use a 6 ft 6 in medium heavy. It's pretty heavy for a mh though. Rated 3/8-2 oz lures so works good for just about any frog and type of cover. Also doubles as a nice pitching stick although I'd like to get something longer next summer.

  • Super User
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Given your mental approach to this problem so far, here is what I'd recommend.  Heavy versus Medium Heavy isn't a monster difference.  Either one will get it done.  What I would recommend is to buy yourself the finest new jig rod that you can afford.  Get something that you really like for throwing jigs.  Get a new reel to go with it if you want.  Get a reel that suits the kind of jig fishing that you like best.

 

Now, your current jig rod becomes a back up jig rod and your primary frog rod.  You really like to jig fish more anyway, and this way you have an upgraded jig rod and an adequate frog rod.

 

When I faced this dilemma, I went a slightly different route.  I got a 7'9" Fenwick AETOS heavy action rod which doubles as my A-rig rod.  Reelis the same, I use 65 lb braid for throwing A-rigs and frogs.

 

This is one of those decisions where it is very hard to make a really stupid choice.  There are dozens of excellent choices out there.

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I've been using a 7'6" mh veritas for frogging. I just acquired the 7'3" mh veritas, which is actually thicker than the 7'6. Abu rods tend to be underrated in the power department. I don't have much to compare them to, but that 7'3" is a very stout rod. I'll be using the 7'3" for my frogging from now on, and use the 7'6" for jigs and spinnerbaits methinks.

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