Multi-Stop Anti-Reverse And Zero Anti-Reverse?

[cjam93]

Hey guys so I was looking into picking up a Lews BB1 and I saw they offer both of these models as options. However, I am not sure what the actual difference is. I will be getting the 6.4:1 for squarebills, so based on that what would you recommend? thanks!

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I believe the Multi stop is the one with the mechanical (ratchet & dog) AR. The theory being that the little bit of back play helps keep from pulling crankbaits away from the fish. Could be, but I don't buy it personally. Actually, I think just the opposite happens and that strikes aren't felt soon enough in a lot of cases. A fish can take and spit a bait pretty quickly as you've seen if you've done any sight fishing.

[Josh Smith]

Hello,

 

I prefer the ratchet setup because I feel it's simpler, tougher, and needs less maintenance.

 

I do fish both.  My preferred setup would be a IAR bearing with a ratchet backup.  I've not found one yet.

 

When you set the hook, you should crank the reel about 1/4 turn, at least that's how I was taught.  It adds just a bit more speed and power to the set.  Any back play should be a non-issue with this technique.

 

Josh

[aavery2]

  On 9/2/2014 at 6:23 AM, Josh Smith said:

 

I do fish both.  My preferred setup would be a IAR bearing with a ratchet backup.  I've not found one yet.

 

Many Shimano reels (super stopper)  use this setup as does the 3rd Gen Revo Winch.

[Maxximus Redneckus]

C series round abus have a post for the dog. Even the iar models

[Josh Smith]

Oh... really?

I guess I didn't think to look at that when I was in the 5600Mag (a C reel).

I am ordering a new 5500c3 and might just have to take advantage of that feature. Thanks!

Josh

[.ghoti.]

David Fritts had something to do with the design of the reel with the old school ratchet & dog style anti-reverse. He prefers that for some reason. I do not remember why. It didn't make sense to me when i read it, so the info found no place to land and stick in my memory.

[Smallmouth Hunter]

  On 9/2/2014 at 6:23 AM, Josh Smith said:

Hello,

I prefer the ratchet setup because I feel it's simpler, tougher, and needs less maintenance.

I do fish both. My preferred setup would be a IAR bearing with a ratchet backup. I've not found one yet.

When you set the hook, you should crank the reel about 1/4 turn, at least that's how I was taught. It adds just a bit more speed and power to the set. Any back play should be a non-issue with this technique.

Josh

tons of reels have IAR with the ratchet as backup...

[cjam93]

Ok so just to double check, if I want a reel with no backplay at all then I am going for the zero anti-reverse? thanks!

[Josh Smith]

  On 9/2/2014 at 11:29 PM, aprw1 said:

tons of reels have IAR with the ratchet as backup...

 

Now you have me surfing schematics.  Dangit man!

 

Josh

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

  On 9/3/2014 at 5:20 AM, cjam93 said:

Ok so just to double check, if I want a reel with no backplay at all then I am going for the zero anti-reverse? thanks!

Correct 

[cjam93]

  On 9/3/2014 at 12:08 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Correct 

Sounds good thanks!

[AzBassin]

I  have many Lews Reels

but only 4 BB1’s and I’m so upset 

only 1 has the multi-stop. 

 

David Fritts is such a hero to me that my response will be biased. However 

my answer is nothing more than a paraphrase of what he has said on numerous Podcasts, BassuTV, Tournament interviews etc. 

 

David says that the most important thing along with long cast, bait color, 10lbs Diameter line and 21 inches per turn is truly to feel your

bait, especially crankbaits, and any winding bait. 
 

Multi-stop he claims brings back the feel to your bait. 
 

Multi-stop he also claims can easily get you 10 more yards on your cast. 
 

Any model BB1 casts far, but my multi-stop one out throws my other BB1’s. 
 

Back to the feel, David has had people in his boat and had them throw the same crankbait on their reel then his.
the moment you start reeling you can feel what your bait is doing with multi-stop.  David Fritts has stated many times the one thing in Bass Fishing you CANT Teach is feel. 
 

He also says he often can feel the bass do the sucking if his bait in well before feel it in rod.  He is right i feel it as well. 
 

Also one huge high percentage time to catch a bass is the moment your bait turns.  
 

The bait turn (if understand geometry)

is the moment, your bait can no longer sustain the operating depth it was designed to reach because as your winding the bait gets closer to you. 
And your rod angle(even if pointed at water). The bait has to come up. 
 

If pause at the moment your bait “turns” he says to briefly pause, and any followers run into bait, or blast it. 
 

With multi-stop you can feel the bait turn. 

 

What caused me to wind up here is

( forgot i had a membership here)

I just read a review on tackle tour about

some BB1 reels I have.  They claim that lews made BB1 in either model, infinite anti reverse and multistop on the model that has the big gold badging.  As long as your model has a Z in it. 
 

Well i was ready to contact Fritts about this because both of mine have Z but

no multistop. Maybe tackke tour has it wrong.  Seems only way to contact David would be instagram and i hate them spyware type sites lol. 
 

Also been searching ebay for more BB1

reels but with multistop. 
 

Put it this way if i could buy the parts to make them multi-stop I would do it. Assuming Tackle Tour is correct that the models with large gold badge can be either with or without. 

  On 9/3/2014 at 5:20 AM, cjam93 said:

Ok so just to double check, if I want a reel with no backplay at all then I am going for the zero anti-reverse? thanks!

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Actually no back play at all is called infinite ant reverse.  But that assuming they sticking to same naming convention.  Id say any reel today is that way. Even new Lews BB1. Think for Bass reels Lews was last hold out on Multistop but i think discontinuing that multi stop.