bbodkin Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 Hey guys. I recently bought a Daiwa Tatula from a trusted guy on eBay. He sent it fast and it came in perfect condition. I put some power pro braid on I and took it out fishing today. Every time I cast it has some loud clicking and it slows the cast down. If you pull the line out you can here it too. Just a forceful pull of the line feeding out, like a cast or yanking the line out fast, makes the clicking sound, not reeling in. I really need to know this as I am going fishing tomorrow and would really like to take it out. Quote
jonnyblazex Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 If it's making sound on the cast it could either be your centrifugal brakes, or something on the spool, like the bearings or something to do with the spool tension knob. Maybe try lightly oiling (like 1 drop on a q tip) and run the q tip around the brake drum where the cent brakes ride on, and see what happens. Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 So it makes the noise on the cast, but not the retrieve? My guess would be the inductor. Take a look at the non-handle side of the spool. It will have this piece that looks like a cup (sort of). Try pulling it out. It should be spring loaded and pop right back when you let go. Also, make sure it is straight. If that looks fine, look on the inside of the non-handle side plate. You will see 2 rings of grey magnets. Make sure they are seated and not rattling around. Next guess would be the spool tension knob, located next to the handle. Put your thumb on the spool and see how much you can move it side to side while in the reel. If it moves more than say 2 mm, tighten the spool tension knob just until it can barely wiggle side to side a mm or so. If that isn't it, my next guess would be the pinion gear.. I have heard of people having issues with pinion gears rattling/bouncing on the spool pin during the cast.. Quote
bbodkin Posted September 1, 2014 Author Posted September 1, 2014 Ok so I tried what you said aprw1. And everything is good except I didn't try checking the pinion gear. I don't know much about bait casters except for the basics. So I don't know what a pinion gear is. But jonnyblaze I didnt try the brake drum cuz I don't know where that is either. If y'all could very dumbly point it out for me, that would help. Thanks for the replies so far! Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted September 1, 2014 Super User Posted September 1, 2014 If it's making sound on the cast it could either be your centrifugal brakes, or something on the spool, like the bearings or something to do with the spool tension knob. Maybe try lightly oiling (like 1 drop on a q tip) and run the q tip around the brake drum where the cent brakes ride on, and see what happens. Tatula = Magforce Z Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 If it's making sound on the cast it could either be your centrifugal brakes, or something on the spool, like the bearings or something to do with the spool tension knob. Maybe try lightly oiling (like 1 drop on a q tip) and run the q tip around the brake drum where the cent brakes ride on, and see what happens.The tatula doesn't have centrifugal brakes or a brake drum. Quote
bbodkin Posted September 1, 2014 Author Posted September 1, 2014 So what else can I do to figure out what's wrong with it? What about the pinion gear? Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 Is the clicking affecting your casting distance? The tatula comes with very low tolerance bearings (one of mine was so bad that the bearing seized up somehow), which can make lots of noise if they are really bad. A problem with bearings is rather minor though, and you should be able to fish with it just fine. I would take a look at the bearing in the non-handle sideplate to start with. Just check it out and see if the inner ring stays perfectly in line and doesn't move about inside the outer ring when spinning fast. If that bearing seems dandy, the other spool bearing is more difficult to get to as you will have to go inside the reel to get to it. But, you could probably check it out without opening up the reel. Take out the sideplate and spool and also the spool tension knob that is next to the handle. Under the spool tension knob, you will see a bearing. You can test this bearing in two ways. One put the spools long end through the bearing that is visible from where the spool tension would be. Yes it is a weird way to test the bearing, but worth a try to isolate that one bearing for testing. Just spin the spool in you fingers slowly and feel whether the bearing is gritty. The second way is to put the spool and sideplate back on, but leave the spool tension knob off. Press the thumb bar button down to disengage the clutch, and spin the spool with the bearing under the spool tension facing you. Watch the bearing's inner ring, and make sure it spins and stays perfectly in the middle of the bearing. It shouldn't try and waddle around at all. Mine did. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted September 1, 2014 Super User Posted September 1, 2014 Seems like a bearing would be felt/heard on both the cast and retrieve. How much line did you put on the reel? Quote
bbodkin Posted September 1, 2014 Author Posted September 1, 2014 Well I checked the bearing in the side plate and it seems fine. I checked the bearing in the tension knob and felt a thick gummy feeling like it had been greased. So I put a drop of lube in it and it seems to be good on a yank of the line but I will try casting it tomorrow morning and see if that did it. Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 Be careful putting lube on a bearing while in the reel. Make sure none of the oil gets on the inside of the bearing sure then it will make it slippery, and when casting the spool shaft will slip rather than grip the bearing. This will decrease casting distance pretty severely. To fix, just put the spool in and turn the handle 20-30 times, then take out the spool and wipe off the spool shaft. Repeat until the end of the spool shaft stops picking up oil. Quote
Koofy Smacker Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 Bearings would be felt on both the cast and the retrieve.. Pinion COULD cause a clicking but would effect the casting distance at all since it is in freespool. The problem may be that your yoke jack isnt properly pushing the pinion out of the way and the spool is clicking over the end of the pinion on a cast. Do me a favor, if you can recreate the sound while sitting down, put only a few pounds of drag on, and pull the line out. Watch the spool very very closely and when you hear a click watch to see if the spool moves to the left at all. If it does it is either a problem with the spool or pinion or shifter of yoke (yes I know it could be a bunch of things but I have seen this problem a bunch on reels in general) Quote
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