Super User Crestliner2008 Posted August 30, 2014 Super User Posted August 30, 2014 Has anyone done this with success? If so, what size difference (if any) compared to the treble and what style? I just think that trebles have too many negatives surrounding the design. Something that's not talked about much. I fish blade baits a lot in deep water for smallmouth and lake trout. I've successfully removed the front treble and all my trebles I crimp down the barbs. However, they still hook bottom a lot and, being a CPR fisherman, they tend to tear up the fish more than a single would. Just not sure if the singles would "hook-up" as well as the trebles do. I am considering replacing say a #4 treble with a #1 Siwash style hook. This seems like a decent compromise, but I could be wrong. Your thoughts please. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 30, 2014 Super User Posted August 30, 2014 A year or 2 ago Yozuri came out with single hook lures, SW fishermen have been changing them on their own for quite some time. I've done it myself but not for freshwater. I much prefer a single hook on my spoons where ever I fish. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted August 30, 2014 Super User Posted August 30, 2014 Owner just brought out some new hooks at I-cast this year for that exact purpose. Can't find the link for it. I have used the siwash style hooks before as a substitute. 1 Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted August 30, 2014 Super User Posted August 30, 2014 If you use the siwash hooks, bend them in some. Saltwater fisherman who used to swap trebles for singles. But siwash hooks have a habit of opening up so we would bend them in just a bit. I would look at the Owner Aki hooks or you could also go with a spinnerbait trailer hook as well. But siwash hooks will work if that's what you wanted to use. Quote
hatrix Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 I read somewhere that you can change out trebles for singles on anything and it wouldn't really make much difference. I don't know how true it is but I think for any lure that is constantly moving you should be fine. Eerie dearies only have a single hook and they are basically a rooster tail. Quote
georgeyew Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 I use the o'shaughnessy's hook #2 from Eagle Claw. I think that they are pretty much identical to the siwash hook. I have changed them out on some of my crankbaits and inline spinnerbaits. Quote
Super User tcbass Posted August 30, 2014 Super User Posted August 30, 2014 Here's an interesting article on doing just that: http://www.***.com/a-weedless-approach-to-prop-bait-fishing/ Quote
kikstand454 Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I've done it with fair success. Another thing you can do is cut the front facing hooks off the front set of hooks. This makes all the difference in the world to me in terms of hanging up. I have noticed 0 change in bite conversions. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted August 31, 2014 Super User Posted August 31, 2014 I do this for my trout and salmon baits. Makes release easier, and I can really swing on them when the attack. It also helps when putting the screws to a 15# plus fish without bending the trebles. With bass, it doesn't seem to be necessary. The hooks come out easily and the fish are more resilient than trout. If you try it, I recommend using two split rings instead of one. It helps with twisting leverage a fish can put on the bait to get free. 1 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 31, 2014 Super User Posted August 31, 2014 Haven't used them myself only seen them used on a tv show but may be worth a try sometime. http://yo-zuri.com/Products/Sashimi_Circle_Hook_Series/details/Sashimi_Circle_Hook_Jerkbait_Suspending.html Quote
Pinoy_Basser Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 Yup they work. Much less chances of injury to fish and fisherman. Usually I buy the next size up based on the original trebles to compensate for the weight balance of the lure. Also, try double hooks much easier to install on lures and usually does not need additional split rings. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted September 2, 2014 Author Super User Posted September 2, 2014 I've tried the double hook route, but both bass and lake trout destroy them! They don't make them out of very good (tempered) steel. Quote
Pinoy_Basser Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 I've tried the double hook route, but both bass and lake trout destroy them! They don't make them out of very good (tempered) steel. Whoa ! those are monsters. Another option is cutting the 3rd hook on normal treble hooks. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted September 3, 2014 Super User Posted September 3, 2014 If you feel certain hooks aren't strong enough try using 3x & 4x, which is what I use even in fresh water. Quote
hatrix Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 I've done it with fair success. Another thing you can do is cut the front facing hooks off the front set of hooks. This makes all the difference in the world to me in terms of hanging up. I have noticed 0 change in bite conversions. I actually messed a around a while back trying to figure out a way to really work a trap in some pretty thick weeds without getting fouled every time. I even tried replacing the trebles with some crappy Eagle Claw weedless single hooks I grabbed at Wal-Mart really quick. That might of worked but those hooks just sucked and so did the weed guard. What actually worked the best even though it made no sense was to remove the back treble hook. I don't know why but I was getting way less weeds with no back hook and just removing the front one seemed to make no real difference. Another thing that worked pretty great now that I think of it and should do again sometime was to rubber band the trebles together. I was flipping the back one up top and the front one under the nose so the points are facing away and hooking them with rubber bands. You miss some fish sometimes but you get bites that you would of never gotten because you can really get in there so I guess it doesn't matter since you were not going to get that fish any ways. Quote
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