San Diego Jam

[Catch and Grease]

stopped using the clinch for braid and started using the Palomar and I liked it a lot for awhile but the whole passing the lure through the loop thing is something that eventually got me annoyed...

Started using the san diego Jam and I love it, I can tie it fast and it seems like a pretty strong knot!

Anybody have any complaints about this knot when used with braid?

[roadwarrior]

No, I think it is a GREAT knot, especially for braided line.

[Cgrinder]

I like the Uni a little better than the SDJ for braid. However, I use the SDJ for fluoro and it works very well.

[cjam93]

It has quickly became the only knot I use anymore. I use it on fc, mono, and braid. I have never had a knot fail either. I love it

[gramps50]

That's my goto knot, except for joining 2 lines, for that I use the alberto. 

[ABW]

Snapped a tree in half before the knot broke...

[SirSnookalot]

Never used that knot, I use a double wrapped improved clinch knot for braid, I can attest it holds 50- 70# fish on 20# line fished in 8 knot current.  That's strong enough for me.  Saw Henry Waszczuk fishing on the flats demonstrate the knot,  I haven't any thing else since.

[DTack]

Personal favorite knot.  Use it for really everything.  My number one knot for Fluoro!

[OnthePotomac]

I just use a uni now for everything and all lines.  It makes life easier and it never fails.

 

[Bluebasser86]

SDJ is my go to knot for fluoro, I use a palomar for braid. 

[Preytorien]

You're right, I find it a lot easier to tie, especially on larger baits (think big spinnerbaits, cranks, umbrella rigs).

 

One thing to keep in mind, not really a complaint, but for anyone who's going to become an SDJ convert, is that for larger diameter lines, use less wraps (I usually use 4-6 for 50-60lb braid) and more wraps for smaller diameters (8-10 for 6/8lb test mono/flouro). I'm not sure how many wraps you all use, I'm sure the consensus is widely variant, but the general idea is in the hunt for a great knot, fewer wraps for large lines and more wraps for small lines seems to be a good rule of thumb to use, and this is definitely a knot you want to wet very well before cinching it down, it'll burn your line pretty easy.

 

But yes, all are correct here, it's a great knot......my personal favorite.

[Catch and Grease]

You're right, I find it a lot easier to tie, especially on larger baits (think big spinnerbaits, cranks, umbrella rigs).

One thing to keep in mind, not really a complaint, but for anyone who's going to become an SDJ convert, is that for larger diameter lines, use less wraps (I usually use 4-6 for 50-60lb braid) and more wraps for smaller diameters (8-10 for 6/8lb test mono/flouro). I'm not sure how many wraps you all use, I'm sure the consensus is widely variant, but the general idea is in the hunt for a great knot, fewer wraps for large lines and more wraps for small lines seems to be a good rule of thumb to use, and this is definitely a knot you want to wet very well before cinching it down, it'll burn your line pretty easy.

But yes, all are correct here, it's a great knot......my personal favorite.

Hmm, thanks for the tip, I've been doing 8 wraps with 50lb braid and 10 wraps with 20-30lb braid.

I use the improved clinch with mono and fluoro but I might start using this with that too instead of just braid

[Preytorien]

Hmm, thanks for the tip, I've been doing 8 wraps with 50lb braid and 10 wraps with 20-30lb braid.

I use the improved clinch with mono and fluoro but I might start using this with that too instead of just braid

Yea more than 5-6 will still work, but sometimes I find the knot isn't as "pretty" which often means something's not right, so I'll cut and retie.

I've fished frogs and jigs in some heavy junk and pulled em out with 5/6 wraps and no failure so it seems to be strong enough.

Really you can't go wrong though. If 8 works for you them I say go with it.

My next is tying the double San Diego Jam, basically the same knot with the line doubled. I've heard it's crazy strong

[Catch and Grease]

Yea more than 5-6 will still work, but sometimes I find the knot isn't as "pretty" which often means something's not right, so I'll cut and retie.

I've fished frogs and jigs in some heavy junk and pulled em out with 5/6 wraps and no failure so it seems to be strong enough.

Really you can't go wrong though. If 8 works for you them I say go with it.

My next is tying the double San Diego Jam, basically the same knot with the line doubled. I've heard it's crazy strong

I really don't worry about doubled knots bass fishing, I retie often enough that my knot is always at 100% and they are strong enough to hold up... I've gotten snagged with no leader on straight 50lb braid and it takes alot of force to break it when wrapped around pliers or something to hold onto.

Knots like the SDJ and Palomar are already very close to 100% knot strength so your line breaks/hook bends out before the knot breaks anyways, so I don't see much point in super knots like the double uni, or double SDJ.

But hey it definitely can't hurt!

[Mike L]

I use the SDJ for everything except braid (Palomar)

But gonna try the Double SDJ for braid maybe this weekend.

Mike

[hawgenvy]

Fellow anglers, What's better, the Double or the Single?

 

Anyone out there think that for fluorocarbon line (at bass fishing line diameters) it is worthwhile to use the Double SDJ vs. the Single? Is there evidence the Double is stronger? Does the complexity of the Double preclude its use? (In low light, or when I'm rushing a bit, the Single is rather easy but the Double gets my fingers in a tighter knot than the line!)