rchiuz Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Hello all, Came home after trying to practice frogging for 8 hours. Hard to practice setting the hooker when there are no takers What do you guys do to try to restart the bite when it drys up? Quote
OntarioFishingGuy Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I cry and ponder my existence in the world. Or I fish a wakebait over weedbeds, depends on my mood. 4 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted August 11, 2014 Super User Posted August 11, 2014 I fish something else if the frog bite isn't on..... Quote
CJV Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Frog bite this time of year is always on. What are the conditions your fishing. Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted August 11, 2014 Super User Posted August 11, 2014 I switch to a jig or a t-rig. Quote
rchiuz Posted August 11, 2014 Author Posted August 11, 2014 Conditions: Tons of lily pads. Summer time in Miami so temperature in upper 90s. Windy depending on time of day Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted August 11, 2014 Super User Posted August 11, 2014 Biggest issue is going to be the wind. You can try throwing a popping type frog instead to make a little more commotion. Generally froggin, at least what I've seen, is more of a slacker water technique. Quote
doyle8218 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 What frog are you using and what time of day? Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 11, 2014 Super User Posted August 11, 2014 Frog is not always on the menu. You can keep pounding the water and and increasing your frustration or...... change baits. I know its easier said than done. However, I am an avid frog user and I have learned, if I am fishing for a long while without a bite on a frog, its time to switch strategies. 3 Quote
frogflogger Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 change frogs - if you're in the miami area with pads and wind use a furbit - a fragile frustrating bait that slays them in those conditions - also if you threw a frog for 8 hrs. without a strike throw it for 9hrs. Frogs are effective until the wind is blowing the lily pads up into a curl - then it's spinner bait time. Also there are mice with spinners and the boze zz walker to name a few good change up baits when the conventional frog isn't working. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted August 11, 2014 Global Moderator Posted August 11, 2014 Drag, twitch etc Trick worm 4" soft stick bait Fuke Craw Lizard Point is, a frog isn't the only bait that will draw huge strike's from a pad, grass or weedy area down here. If you STILL don't get a hit...Change your depth presentation or move on. Mike Quote
DTack Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 My problem is I don't stop throwing it. I just make better casts and stick it out typically. Usually I will have a heavy flipping set up and go with that for a while. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted August 12, 2014 Super User Posted August 12, 2014 I go with a creature bait or senko in the openings. But it's hard to put that frog down in heavy vegetation anytime it's there. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted August 12, 2014 Super User Posted August 12, 2014 There are plenty of techniques to drag a fish out of frog water if they won't bite a frog. #1 for me is punching with a creature bait. 1 Quote
rchiuz Posted August 12, 2014 Author Posted August 12, 2014 I think that day I switch between frogs during the 8 hour span. Early morning: Koppers (white) Late morning: Booyah Pad Crasher (green) Early Evening: Spro Popping Frog (brownish red) Evening: Koppers (brown) Tried a senko in between early morning-late morning: did get a bite but missed it, Couldn't get a bite with a senko after that Tried a Buzzbait but when the wind kicked up, put it away Might try a creature next time. I don't have a boat so I don't have too many options for dropping something in besides the edges of the pads. If there is an open space deep in the pads, do I throw there with a creature? Won't my line get tangled in the pads? Still new to frog so I apologize for the newbie questions ^^;; Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted August 12, 2014 Super User Posted August 12, 2014 Well if you can't get them to respond to a frog, and have nice thick weedbeds, go punching. If they won't come to the top and play, go in and get them. I carry 2-3 types of frogs, may try a different style, slow walk, long pauses, but if they aren't coming up, I just go punching with a heavy punch jig (3/4oz or heavier) and put my bait in some of the deepset weeds I can find as well as holes and hold on. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 12, 2014 Super User Posted August 12, 2014 I think that day I switch between frogs during the 8 hour span. Early morning: Koppers (white) Late morning: Booyah Pad Crasher (green) Early Evening: Spro Popping Frog (brownish red) Evening: Koppers (brown) Tried a senko in between early morning-late morning: did get a bite but missed it, Couldn't get a bite with a senko after that Tried a Buzzbait but when the wind kicked up, put it away Might try a creature next time. I don't have a boat so I don't have too many options for dropping something in besides the edges of the pads. If there is an open space deep in the pads, do I throw there with a creature? Won't my line get tangled in the pads? Still new to frog so I apologize for the newbie questions ^^;; Rchiuz, you and I are geographically close so "our" waters are the same. I can tell you the frog bite has been off. I really love to frog fish, many can attest, my suggestion is to try other techniques. Slow down your approach and play the numbers. This summer has turned them off in the canals. The only place I was able to put a hurting to them using the frog, was in the glades last month. But again, conditions have changed the water is up, so now I have to change locations and find productive water. I know its not the advice you want to hear, but unless you are willing to fish in the middle of the night, put the frog away for now. Quote
rchiuz Posted August 12, 2014 Author Posted August 12, 2014 The only place that I fish frogs is in Tropical Park down by Bird road. Right now I don't know anywhere else that has a lot of vegetation. I wouldn't be so focused on frogging but all those times at the end of the spring when spring when I missed hook sets bothers me X_X And it's another technique to learn Quote
CDobber Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 My PB (avatar) came on a frog. Love the concept, love the topwater excitement, but definitely a learning curve and a practice in patience. I've used frogs on and off all season under the right circumstances and have had many hits to the lure (or nearby) but hadn't had a single strike where hookset even was a possibility. It wasn't big, it didn't fight all that hard, but it WAS the first froggin' fish of the season this morning..... 1 Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 12, 2014 Super User Posted August 12, 2014 The only place that I fish frogs is in Tropical Park down by Bird road. Right now I don't know anywhere else that has a lot of vegetation. I wouldn't be so focused on frogging but all those times at the end of the spring when spring when I missed hook sets bothers me X_X And it's another technique to learn I hear you about the spring. But this is summer, its different. I fish amelia which is tropical park's sister park and the frog bite is off there too. But then again amelia isn't known for its frog bite either. Once the sun is up and high at the park put the frog away. Water temps are in the 90's unless like I said earlier, you are going out at night or right at sunrise, fishing is going to be tough. Quote
rchiuz Posted August 12, 2014 Author Posted August 12, 2014 Nice CDobber BassinLou: The last time I was at Amelia I got a 2lber near the reeds. I went there wanting to rent a paddle boat to fish further out but they were closed. I don't remember seeing heavy cover for frogs but maybe I didn't go everywhere. Maybe the weather might change and get the bass feeding again. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted August 13, 2014 Super User Posted August 13, 2014 Nice CDobber BassinLou: The last time I was at Amelia I got a 2lber near the reeds. I went there wanting to rent a paddle boat to fish further out but they were closed. I don't remember seeing heavy cover for frogs but maybe I didn't go everywhere. Maybe the weather might change and get the bass feeding again. Paddle boats are on the weekends only. Best of luck on your frogging quest. remember to post a pic of that pig. Quote
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