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I have a rod 6'6" action medium, 6-12lbs line and reel which can hold 10lbs line. What lbs braided line can i put on my rod for cats and carp fishing? What are the equivalents mono to braided?

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If it means anything I know that 30lb braid has the diameter of 8lb monofilament

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The superline I use (Daiwa) is smaller than most other brands. The 40# is 8# mono equivalent diameter and the 30# is 6# mono equivalent diameter.

 

Your reel only states how much 10# mono diameter line it will hold, it has nothing to do with any rating of the reel.

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For that reel, I'd recommend 10,15 or 20 lb braid.

On the topic of mono to raid comparisons...To me, there's a good disconnect between what's published and what's realistic on this subject. Here's an example...

As per Dwight's link above, 30 lb Power Pro has the diameter of 8 lb mono. That tells me that I should be able to spool an equivalent amount of either 30 lb PP or 8 lb mono on the same reel.

But if you look an manufacturer specs on reels, you find that to not be the case at all. For example, Shimano's specs on the 2500 Stradic say it can hold 140 yards of 8 lb mono, and only 95 yards of 30 lb Power Pro. Why not the same amount?

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For that reel, I'd recommend 10,15 or 20 lb braid.

On the topic of mono to raid comparisons...To me, there's a good disconnect between what's published and what's realistic on this subject. Here's an example...

As per Dwight's link above, 30 lb Power Pro has the diameter of 8 lb mono. That tells me that I should be able to spool an equivalent amount of either 30 lb PP or 8 lb mono on the same reel.

But if you look an manufacturer specs on reels, you find that to not be the case at all. For example, Shimano's specs on the 2500 Stradic say it can hold 140 yards of 8 lb mono, and only 95 yards of 30 lb Power Pro. Why not the same amount?

 

I think they take into account that there will 40 to 50 yards of mono on the spool as backing. As far as the rod is concerned, line specs are generalizations for what is normally associated with that length and power of rod and in you case it is way under powered for catfish and carp, a medium heavy at least. nothing less.

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I think they take into account that there will 40 to 50 yards of mono on the spool as backing. As far as the rod is concerned, line specs are generalizations for what is normally associated with that length and power of rod and in you case it is way under powered for catfish and carp, a medium heavy at least. nothing less.

The specs for mono and braid for Shimano's larger offshore reels don't match up either, I don't think too many people would put backing on 10000+ reel.  Going the opposite direction the specs don't match up for a 1000 reel and lot of people use no backing on small reel like that.

I have no clue as why they list the numbers that way, makes no sense to me.

I have had reels spooled with a line counter, those reels are spooled to about 1/8 from the lip, which doesn't relate to the print on the reel.  I think the manufacturer lists full capacity not to where we spool them.

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Wayne P., on 02 Aug 2014 - 19:20, said:

The superline I use (Daiwa) is smaller than most other brands. The 40# is 8# mono equivalent diameter and the 30# is 6# mono equivalent diameter.

 

Your reel only states how much 10# mono diameter line it will hold, it has nothing to do with any rating of the reel.

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I think they take into account that there will 40 to 50 yards of mono on the spool as backing.

It makes no sense to me that they would assume some arbitrary amount of backing, especially since they don't indicate that. Bottom line to me is that the mono equivalents listed on braid packages are crap :)

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It's really hard to list a true conversion give that every line is slightly different. If you look at mono's different brands have different diameters. You can generalize, but to say that it's exact is pretty tough. 

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You did not ask about this but you might want to put a mono leader on that just so you can break it if you hang up.  Either that or keep a piece of wood handy to wrap it around in order to pull and break it.  Do not heave back on your rod or wrap that stuff around your hand!

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