ColdSVT Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Bass never hide near bassboats any way...cmon people Noe pontoons on the other hand is a different story... 3 Quote
Super User tomustang Posted August 4, 2014 Super User Posted August 4, 2014 "Treat others as you would want to be treated." That is just simple common sense.   In my state I am allowed to fish docks so I just make sure I don't hit someone's boat. If I am an inaccurate caster that means I don't cast near the boat at all. If the dock owner tells me he or she doesn't allow anyone to fish his dock, I respectfully move along. Ethical actions and the law often do not walk hand in hand. Just because the law states that I am allowed to do it, doesn't mean I should do it.  Just be nice to people and try to see things from their perspective. If you really strive to do this, you may find out that some of your most strongly held convictions are not as accurate as you thought.  That's the key. Now on the other hand while someone wants to set up shop and 'inaccurately' cast over is just ignorant and childish. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 4, 2014 Super User Posted August 4, 2014 If your fishing a persons dock and they come out a politely ask you to move along and you countine to fish, well shame on you. Its is just polite to do things sometimes even if you don't have to. 1 Quote
jhoffman Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 I think you missed the point of that thread completely. Not many people are dumb enough to wing a 1oz jig up near someones chris craft. A lot of times these owners who get bent, do so at guys fishing the sides of the docks with no boats. If you think certain docks arent better than the next than you have never fished a true dock lake.  A lake like Chautauqua for example, some of those docks you could fish for weeks and never catch a fish on them. Some of them, due to how they meet certain under water features cause bass to stack up on those docks. Its usually the guy who has that hot dock that meets the contour who gets bent. Well bud, it just so happens that the first breakline of sand to rock and drop all happens within five feet of your dock, thats why people fish it, its a game of odds.  Maybe you like to pay taxes and fishing license money to see guys who have more money than respect for the common guy yell at anglers but not I. That lake was there before he made his millions and will be there long after he is dead and gone.  I see a lot of people like to use analogies so Ill make one of my own. This is like the guy when you were a kid who every time you hit a baseball into his property from the public park he took it. Or better yet, Im the guy whos property the city water line starts on, therefore Im gonna shut it off cause I dont want you to drink any of it.  Money buys no one the right to treat another like trash and just the opposite is true. Everyone could just respect each other a little bit on both sides of this fence and there would be no issue. If the guy who owns the dock sees someone a little close to his boat he could say "Hey bud, id appreciate it if you only fish the other side of the dock or not skip up near the boat". Instead what most do is come out, puff out their chest like theyre someone special and proclaim how they spend tens of thousands of dollars in year for fees to have a dock. 2 Quote
tatertester Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 I fish docks whenever I come across them, BUT, if there is one or several docks in a row with people on or near the docks I simply continue on around them...It is only courteous to do so. 1 Quote
Logan S Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 I fish a lot of docks... Even if there are people on a dock as I'm working down a row I'll usually continue on fishing it.  I've never run into anyone who wasn't friendly.  I've even caught fish from a dock with people on it a few times... The thing is, when I see people on the dock I'll say hello and ask if it's alright to keep fishing through as I come up on it.  Nobody has ever said no.   I've had a couple encounters  with people that came walking down to 'chase me off'... A quick apology and I move on, even when they are rude.  No sense in dwelling on it.  I usually hit the prime docks early anyway, so the people aren't awake to get mad even if they do care . 1 Quote
Jd_Phillips_Fishin Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 Most of the time when someone notices me or my dad fishing there dock they just ignore us and sometimes they will walk out on there dock and root for us to catch one. There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish at there marina. We told her it was public water and we had the right to fish there as long as we didn't touch the dock or the boats. And thats what we did with out touching the dock or any boats.  And if people are on there dock we just ignore them and keep fishing unless they start talking to us. But most people don't care if we fish there dock. Quote
plumworm Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 Son, learn to use "there" and "their" properly, otherwise, good post. 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted August 5, 2014 Super User Posted August 5, 2014 I remember fishing Santee Cooper (the bigger of the 2 lakes) and a guy had one of those pulsating water sprinklers hooked up to a motion sensor. If someone was too close to the dock the motion sensor would energize a water pump and the sprinkler would drench the offending boat that got too close. 6 Quote
Crappiebasser Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 I remember fishing Santee Cooper (the bigger of the 2 lakes) and a guy had one of those pulsating water sprinklers hooked up to a motion sensor. If someone was too close to the dock the motion sensor would energize a water pump and the sprinkler would drench the offending boat that got too close.  As hot as it gets down here in the summer I would think that would attract fishermen rather than repel them. 1 Quote
ColdSVT Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 I remember fishing Santee Cooper (the bigger of the 2 lakes) and a guy had one of those pulsating water sprinklers hooked up to a motion sensor. If someone was too close to the dock the motion sensor would energize a water pump and the sprinkler would drench the offending boat that got too close. That would be nice on an august afternoon lol Long distance casts if its cold lol Quote
Violinguy Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 On 8/4/2014 at 5:57 PM, carolina bassin said: Most of the time when someone notices me or my dad fishing there dock they just ignore us and sometimes they will walk out on there dock and root for us to catch one. There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish at there marina. We told her it was public water and we had the right to fish there as long as we didn't touch the dock or the boats. And thats what we did with out touching the dock or any boats.  And if people are on there dock we just ignore them and keep fishing unless they start talking to us. But most people don't care if we fish there dock.  There is an attitude that too many people have these days, and that is if I am allowed by law to do something, I'm going to do it no matter how annoying or inconsiderate it is. Kind of like the guy walking around the streets in CO with a shotgun simply because he can. It is freaking everyone out but it's "legal" so he's going to do it.   Correct, the water around the dock is public, and by law anyone is allowed to fish there. Just like the parking lot where you park your new Porsche is public property. It still wouldn't make you feel very nice to see kids playing baseball in that parking lot. Do unto others...etc. seems to be lost these days. 3 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted August 5, 2014 Super User Posted August 5, 2014 Son, learn to use "there" and "their" properly, otherwise, good post. Plumworm, when I was in school, you had to learn in order to graduate. By the time my kids were in school, all you had to do was show up to graduate. I think now, all that is required to graduate is to turn eighteen....lol. Hootie 3 Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted August 5, 2014 Super User Posted August 5, 2014 Can we all just agree............some dock owners are jerks, and so are some bass fisherman. I fish lots of docks. I go around docks that people are using, and, while not perfect, I make a real effort to NOT bang stuff off peoples boats. You have to know your limitations, if I am bobbing up in down in white caps, I am probably not going to attempt to skip a weight-less senko in the 2" opening between the hoist and the dock. 1 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 5, 2014 Author Posted August 5, 2014 Can we all just agree............some dock owners are jerks, and so are some bass fisherman. I fish lots of docks. I go around docks that people are using, and, while not perfect, I make a real effort to NOT bang stuff off peoples boats. You have to know your limitations, if I am bobbing up in down in white caps, I am probably not going to attempt to skip a weight-less senko in the 2" opening between the hoist and the dock. Â This is basically what I'm trying to say. Some people are thinking I'm saying don't fish docks at all, which is not true because I fish docks. What I'm saying is if someone asks you to not fish their dock, don't get all be my out of shape about it. If you know you aren't the best at casting, cast at the dock itself and not the boat. It's simple as that. Quote
Super User SoFlaBassAddict Posted August 5, 2014 Super User Posted August 5, 2014 Threads discussing this topic have made me realize one thing: Â Â I am so glad I don't have to deal with dock fishing. I realize people catch a lot of fish on them, but wow. Sometimes it seems like it's just not worth the headache. I constantly read stories about people getting into serious arguments with the dock owners. Having stuff thrown at them, threatened with gunfire, etc etc. Just isn't worth it. Quote
FrogFreak Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 From time to time I fish with my buddy on a pretty busy lake  and he loves to hit the docks. Well, we went by this one dock and an elderly gal comes out and stomps down to the end of the dock and stomps back to the house. My buddy says she does it every time and the only thing he can figure is she's trying to scatter the fish so we don't catch any. I guess she never says anything to him and she doesn't have any signs or chicken wire installed. Next time I see her, I'm going to tell her about the motion activated sprinkler idea.  Like a lot of others here, I just try and be respectful of other peoples stuff. If you don't want me to fish your dock, I won't. I can find em somewhere else. I fish to relax and I've never had a confrontation that left me feeling relaxed. 2 Quote
wnybassman Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 There was an old lady on one of our lakes that would see you coming down the stretch of docks and she would come out on her dock and start fishing.  Once you went around hers and were a few docks away, she would go back in the cottage.   She did that for years.   No matter what kind of conversation you would try to spark up, she would not say a word.  Quote
Jd_Phillips_Fishin Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 On 8/5/2014 at 6:26 AM, Violinguy said: There is an attitude that too many people have these days, and that is if I am allowed by law to do something, I'm going to do it no matter how annoying or inconsiderate it is. Kind of like the guy walking around the streets in CO with a shotgun simply because he can. It is freaking everyone out but it's "legal" so he's going to do it.  Correct, the water around the dock is public, and by law anyone is allowed to fish there. Just like the parking lot where you park your new Porsche is public property. It still wouldn't make you feel very nice to see kids playing baseball in that parking lot. Do unto others...etc. seems to be lost these days. 1.The reason people were freaking out about the guy in CO is because he had something that could have killed them. 2.If someone cared about their boat enough just to let it sit in the water 24/7 than they obviously don't care about their boat. But that doesn't mean I try to hit their boat intentionally. 3.I just noticed it this morning, but I miss typed my previous post. What it should have said was, "There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish their marina, because she didn't want us trespassing or messing with the boats." Quote
Super User slonezp Posted August 6, 2014 Super User Posted August 6, 2014 1.The reason people were freaking out about the guy in CO is because he had something that could have killed them. 2.If someone cared about their boat enough just to let it sit in the water 24/7 than they obviously don't care about their boat. But that doesn't mean I try to hit their boat intentionally. 3.I just noticed it this morning, but I miss typed my previous post. What it should have said was, "There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish their marina, because she didn't want us trespassing or messing with the boats." Guns don't kill people 2 Quote
Jd_Phillips_Fishin Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 I wasn't saying they were afraid the gun would kill them. I was saying they were afraid because the man was holding something that he could use to kill someone. Quote
Violinguy Posted August 6, 2014 Posted August 6, 2014 3.I just noticed it this morning, but I miss typed my previous post. What it should have said was, "There has only been one time when someone didn't want us to fish their marina, because she didn't want us trespassing or messing with the boats." A simple, "No problem. We'll move on." would suffice. Instead, the response was more like "we can fish here if we want to, the water is public property." I'm trying not to accuse anyone of being a bad person, but that is the attitude that bugs the @#$%! out of me.  Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to my front lawn to chase the kids away. 1 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted August 6, 2014 Super User Posted August 6, 2014 There is an attitude that too many people have these days, and that is if I am allowed by law to do something, I'm going to do it no matter how annoying or inconsiderate it is That's exactly how I feel... Its kinda like the "I'm not touching you" thing when we were kids haha 1 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 6, 2014 Author Posted August 6, 2014 That's exactly how I feel... Its kinda like the "I'm not touching you" thing when we were kids haha  People do it for the exact reason that they did that too. Most of them do it just to get on people's nerves. They know if they keep fishing it it will get under the dock owner's skin, and they find pleasure in that for some reason. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted August 7, 2014 Super User Posted August 7, 2014 People do it for the exact reason that they did that too. Most of them do it just to get on people's nerves. They know if they keep fishing it it will get under the dock owner's skin, and they find pleasure in that for some reason. I disagree. I don't think most people go out of their way to p!$$ people off intentionally. I think it's the entitlement attitude our country is adopting. Many people think because they spend money on a boat or on lakefront property, they own the water. I have run into both over the years. Most seem miserable inside 1 Quote
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