Which Swimbaits To Look Into?

[cjam93]

Hey guys so I was wondering what swimbaits you would recommend me checking out. I will be throwing them on the new Daiwa DX swimbait rod 8ft medium heavy on 20lb test CXX. The rod says its good for 1-6oz lures. I am in North Carolina so a lot of the water I am fishing has 1-2 1/2 feet of visibility on average. The lake I fish the most stays somewhere around that clarity almost all year. I think I am looking for something that will cause a bit more water displacement so it is easier for the fish to hone in on it. So far the only swimbait I have picked up is the 6inch slow sinking BBZ-1 model. I will be targeting Largemouth that feed on shad, bluegill, and crappie the most. I like the looks of some of the glide baits I have seen recently, but with their slow graceful swimming I wouldnt think they put out quite as much water displacement as something similar to the BBZ-1 with its triple jointed swimming motion. Of course that is just a guess as I have so little knowledge on this subject. Oh and I would prefer to look at hardbody swimbaits as opposed to soft. Thanks!

 

[bmlum415]

Look at the triple trout or abt suicide glide in either 7" or 9"

[Raul]

Mattlures swimbaits, all of them. Huddleston Deluxe 68, Fish Arrow, all of them.

[cjam93]

Mattlures swimbaits, all of them. Huddleston Deluxe 68, Fish Arrow, all of them.

 

Do you recommend all of these different soft ones because they have more water displacement than a hardbody, or you just prefer them?

[gobig]

cjam, Try to keep is simple and don't over complicate it, It can be overwhelming. Things can also seem somewhat contradictory. Your placing to much on water displacement when there are other factors at play. I have to go to work but I will try to pop back on tonight and simplify some things for you.

[cjam93]

cjam, Try to keep is simple and don't over complicate it, It can be overwhelming. Things can also seem somewhat contradictory. Your placing to much on water displacement when there are other factors at play. I have to go to work but I will try to pop back on tonight and simplify some things for you.

Alright haha thanks Id appreciate it!

[iceintheveins]

Try the dynamic lures dynamo (it stays 0 - 2 feet under the surface with an extremely slow sink and is more of a wake bait but has GREAT action) They make a lipped dynamo that can get to 5' deep on a slow retrieve. They also have a soft one, the FX fury, which on a slow retrieve will fish down to 12 feet. They are fantastic lures for big bass. The price is right too, all under $15.

 

dynamiclures.com

[gobig]

I have not forgot to reply. I have just been swamped. As soon as I have a moment I will.

[buzzed bait]

MS Slammer, displaces a lot of water and easy to fish.  you may be surprised the number of fish you will catch on the bigger version (9" I think).

you happen to be fishing anywhere around western NC where they're stocking trout?  I really like the river2sea S wavers too, easy baits to learn with and not overly expensive for a swimbait (around $16-20)

[cjam93]

Try the dynamic lures dynamo (it stays 0 - 2 feet under the surface with an extremely slow sink and is more of a wake bait but has GREAT action) They make a lipped dynamo that can get to 5' deep on a slow retrieve. They also have a soft one, the FX fury, which on a slow retrieve will fish down to 12 feet. They are fantastic lures for big bass. The price is right too, all under $15.

 

dynamiclures.com

 

I looked them up they look great thanks!

I have not forgot to reply. I have just been swamped. As soon as I have a moment I will.

 

haha i understand that, its all good!

 

MS Slammer, displaces a lot of water and easy to fish.  you may be surprised the number of fish you will catch on the bigger version (9" I think).

you happen to be fishing anywhere around western NC where they're stocking trout?  I really like the river2sea S wavers too, easy baits to learn with and not overly expensive for a swimbait (around $16-20)

 

I had already been looking at a slammer looks like Ill have to pick that one up. Im actually not, I really wish I was though!

[OK Bass Hunter]

For starters, try a Jackall Mikey.

[WRB]

You should have a few swimbaits to use based on where the bass are feeding, top or near top, slow sinking and faster sinking.

ABT Dirty Donkey is an excellent wake or walk the dog swimbait; 6" trout wt 3 1/4 oz

Black Dog Shell Cracker slow sink Ghost Bluegill, 5 1/2", 2 1/4 oz.

Huddleston Deluxe 68 ROF 12 trout, 6", 2 1/8 oz.

This list can get long quick, these 3 are well made and available from TW.

I would go to 25 lb line.

Good luck.

Tom

PS, bass can find prey in the dark!

[2833-34497]

I wouldn't get locked into just hard baits and make sure you cover the water column (top, middle and bottom) and get good at a few before getting to many without really learning them 1st. Go with a Lunker Punker or MS Slammer for topwater, a S-waver and Hudds or Savage Line thru which have different sink rates and are pretty universal baits and reasonably priced IMO! This way you can also get whats good for your area as you go! I use P-Line PF 25 lb test which handles even the heaviest Hudds at 4.8 oz. good luck!

[gobig]

I am really sorry its taken me this long to reply. I have just had a ton of stuff going on. As far as displacement goes and what I remember from school. An object can only displace the equivalent to its own volume. So if an object is dense enough to sink, the bigger it is the more it displaces.  A floating bait is only going to displace the volume that is below the surface. The long and short of it is... size matters. If they know a 3/8 oz jig is there, they definitely know a 8in hud is there. 

 

Sound travels a long ways under the water. So a hard bait is going to transfer more sound as the hinges squeak and make contact. Add rattles and there is even more sound that transfers and calls attention. The more sound it makes the less natural it is. That is probably why the huddleston had accounted for more trophy fish than any other swimbait. Its more natural. In a tournament setting a bait that makes more noise will allow you to cover more water at a faster pace in dingy water. 

 

Billed baits push more water then baits with out bills. This disturbance also calls attention but is more subtle and natural then a rattle. Two piece baits thump harder then three piece and three piece harder then four. 

 

Now, here is what I mean by keeping it simple. Stick with proven baits. Don't get caught into the hype that you have to have some $300 bait to be successful.  Fish prime locations, points, humps, ridges, creek channels and flats. Fish up hill pulling your bait into cover and structure. Fish use these elements to pin prey. You have three parts to the water column, top, middle and bottom. Select the right bait accordingly. In other words if you have 6ft of depth and weeds on the bottom you might want to go with a weedless hud or a mission fish. Even though neither of these are hard baits that make a ton of noise they may be the best solution for your circumstances. Sift through the information a lot of it is BS. This is just the tip of the ice berge. There is so much to absorb here that you are going to go through several realizations if you stick with swimbaits. Not to mention you will become a better angler all around because you will see things differently. 

[cjam93]

I am really sorry its taken me this long to reply. I have just had a ton of stuff going on. As far as displacement goes and what I remember from school. An object can only displace the equivalent to its own volume. So if an object is dense enough to sink, the bigger it is the more it displaces.  A floating bait is only going to displace the volume that is below the surface. The long and short of it is... size matters. If they know a 3/8 oz jig is there, they definitely know a 8in hud is there. 

 

Sound travels a long ways under the water. So a hard bait is going to transfer more sound as the hinges squeak and make contact. Add rattles and there is even more sound that transfers and calls attention. The more sound it makes the less natural it is. That is probably why the huddleston had accounted for more trophy fish than any other swimbait. Its more natural. In a tournament setting a bait that makes more noise will allow you to cover more water at a faster pace in dingy water. 

 

Billed baits push more water then baits with out bills. This disturbance also calls attention but is more subtle and natural then a rattle. Two piece baits thump harder then three piece and three piece harder then four. 

 

Now, here is what I mean by keeping it simple. Stick with proven baits. Don't get caught into the hype that you have to have some $300 bait to be successful.  Fish prime locations, points, humps, ridges, creek channels and flats. Fish up hill pulling your bait into cover and structure. Fish use these elements to pin prey. You have three parts to the water column, top, middle and bottom. Select the right bait accordingly. In other words if you have 6ft of depth and weeds on the bottom you might want to go with a weedless hud or a mission fish. Even though neither of these are hard baits that make a ton of noise they may be the best solution for your circumstances. Sift through the information a lot of it is BS. This is just the tip of the ice berge. There is so much to absorb here that you are going to go through several realizations if you stick with swimbaits. Not to mention you will become a better angler all around because you will see things differently. 

It is completely alright, I just appreciate you taking the time to write all of that up! It was really a lot of help, and made me think about thinks in a different way. I really appreciate it! So far I just have the BBZ-1 6in slow sink, but I for sure want to get a hud as well. Two weekends ago I caught a 3lb on the BBZ-1, not a monster but still felt good to get that first one. You have posted in a number of the different threads I have started on here about swimbaits and it has been a lot of help. Thank you again!