ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 I'm thinking about buying another spinning setup and want some input. Before, I had an Abu Garcial Cardinal SX on a Zebco rod (maybe a $40-$50 setup total), and I absolutely hated it. Now I'm thinking about buying a better setup to see if I just don't like spinning gear at all or I just didn't like that setup. Anyways, I'm going with a better setup and it'll probably take a few months for me to get the money so it's no rush. I was going to buy a Shimano Symetre FL 2500 and pair it with a Fenwick HMG Medium. It's a $200 setup not including tax. Do you guys think this is a good setup or should I just stick with baitcasters? 1 Quote
Kevin Beachy Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 You wanna know what my setup is. A shakespeare durango on a pinnacle ultra balance bait cast rod. I recommend it. lol 1 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 Shakespeare reminds me of the old Trac-Phones. They aren't good at much, but you can't destroy them. Lol Quote
dam0007 Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 Symmetry is a awesome reel for the money and the Fenwick has a lot of positive reviews throughout the forums. I'm sure you'll be much happier 1 Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted August 1, 2014 Super User Posted August 1, 2014 Sounds good to me! Give it a whirl! 1 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 Symmetry is a awesome reel for the money and the Fenwick has a lot of positive reviews throughout the forums. I'm sure you'll be much happier I'm hoping I will, I wasn't a big fan of baitcasters until I got decent one. The Cardinal SX I want impressed with. I could easily throw any bait further with my BC over the Cardinal. Quote
OntarioFishingGuy Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 Sounds good, enjoy it! Spinning gear is one of the most underrated pieces of equipment in bass fishing IMO. Take advantage of it. Just make sure to use braid... 3 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 Sounds good, enjoy it! Spinning gear is one of the most underrated pieces of equipment in bass fishing IMO. Take advantage of it. Just make sure to use braid... Why braid, what pound test, and what brand? I haven't experimented with braid so I don't know much about it. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted August 1, 2014 Super User Posted August 1, 2014 Sounds like a good buy, IMO. I have Stradics (1000FI), and I've got Chronarchs (50e). Love 'em all, enjoy 'em all. For now, my Chronarchs get the most time mostly because they're easier on my elbows. But all around, I think you'll find your choice a much better spinning experience. 1 Quote
OntarioFishingGuy Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 I find it easier to use braid because it has no memory. You wont get any loops of line when you cast, and you can cast further. Back the spool with mono, and tie your braid to that and spool it on. I use Sufix 832 in 10lb test, but depending on the rod, cover, etc you could go up to 20lb test. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted August 1, 2014 Super User Posted August 1, 2014 Why braid, what pound test, and what brand? I haven't experimented with braid so I don't know much about it. If I may, braid presents almost zero line management issues. Whereas mono, fluoro, copoly will tend to coil unless you use generous amounts of line conditioner. Personally, I use a braid mainline on all my gear and various types of leaders in varying pound tests for the conditions at hand. 2 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 Sounds like a good buy, IMO. I have Stradics (1000FI), and I've got Chronarchs (50e). Love 'em all, enjoy 'em all. For now, my Chronarchs get the most time mostly because they're easier on my elbows. But all around, I think you'll find your choice a much better spinning experience. I find it easier to use braid because it has no memory. You wont get any loops of line when you cast, and you can cast further. Back the spool with mono, and tie your braid to that and spool it on. I use Sufix 832 in 10lb test, but depending on the rod, cover, etc you could go up to 20lb test. I was looking on TWH and it said 15 pound braid is equivalant to 6 pound mono. I believe I'll probably go with 10-20 and see how it goes. Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 If I may, braid presents almost zero line management issues. Whereas mono, fluoro, copoly will tend to coil unless you use generous amounts of line conditioner. Personally, I use a braid mainline on all my gear and various types of leaders in varying pound tests for the conditions at hand. This is probably a dumb question, but why doesn't fluoro spiral on a BC like it does on spinning equipment? Quote
Super User Darren. Posted August 1, 2014 Super User Posted August 1, 2014 This is probably a dumb question, but why doesn't fluoro spiral on a BC like it does on spinning equipment? Difference in the way it is wound on the spool - or in the way it comes off the spool. If that makes any sense. 1 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 Difference in the way it is wound on the spool - or in the way it comes off the spool. If that makes any sense. That's what I was thinking since BC pulls it onto the spool more directly. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted August 1, 2014 Super User Posted August 1, 2014 That's what I was thinking since BC pulls it onto the spool more directly. Yes 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted August 1, 2014 Super User Posted August 1, 2014 I was looking on TWH and it said 15 pound braid is equivalant to 6 pound mono. I believe I'll probably go with 10-20 and see how it goes. With braid, I do not look at equivalent mono size, although I'm aware of it. I rely more on the pound test of the braid. For instance, on all my spinning gear (save 1 reel), I have 10 pound Power Pro (original) in yellow. On my bait casting gear I use 20 pound Power Pro (also yellow). That's PLENTY of strength for the way *I* fish. Despite Power Pro saying 10 or 15 or 20, etc., pound test, the breakage can be much higher. Now if YOU feel better with say 15 pound braid that is like 4 lb mono diameter, then go for it. 10 pound PP is the diameter of 2 pound mono, it is thin. I've not had many problems with it over many years. I caught my PB of 7.5 lbs in thick salad on 10lb Fireline with a 10lb leader (on a bait caster). That line has a 4 lb diameter. And I've caught numerous 6+ pound bass on 10 lb Power Pro in the sticks on spinning gear (including the citation 6.6 lber 22 ¼"er in my avatar). It is stronger than you think. Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 With braid, I do not look at equivalent mono size, although I'm aware of it. I rely more on the pound test of the braid. For instance, on all my spinning gear (save 1 reel), I have 10 pound Power Pro (original) in yellow. On my bait casting gear I use 20 pound Power Pro (also yellow). That's PLENTY of strength for the way *I* fish. Despite Power Pro saying 10 or 15 or 20, etc., pound test, the breakage can be much higher. Now if YOU feel better with say 15 pound braid that is like 4 lb mono diameter, then go for it. 10 pound PP is the diameter of 2 pound mono, it is thin. I've not had many problems with it over many years. I caught my PB of 7.5 lbs in thick salad on 10lb Fireline with a 10lb leader (on a bait caster). That line has a 4 lb diameter. And I've caught numerous 6+ pound bass on 10 lb Power Pro in the sticks on spinning gear (including the citation 6.6 lber 22 ¼"er in my avatar). It is stronger than you think. I'm not worried about the strength, I never pull in big bass. I'm just worried about the diameter because I here plenty of people saying how thin diameter will snap itself sometimes and for someone with no job, I can't afford to lose lures. Lol then again, I only plan to throw soft plastics with this setup. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted August 1, 2014 Super User Posted August 1, 2014 I'm not worried about the strength, I never pull in big bass. I'm just worried about the diameter because I here plenty of people saying how thin diameter will snap itself sometimes and for someone with no job, I can't afford to lose lures. Lol then again, I only plan to throw soft plastics with this setup. Then do whatever feels best for you and your wallet, by all means! If that means 15 or 20 pound, then go for it!! I understand the job situation and desire to keep all the soft plastics you can buy! The fish don't know what pound test you're fishin'! 1 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 Then do whatever feels best for you and your wallet, by all means! If that means 15 or 20 pound, then go for it!! I understand the job situation and desire to keep all the soft plastics you can buy! The fish don't know what pound test you're fishin'! I'm glad someone knows how it feels. Some people on this forum you ask for a decent cheap reel suggestion and they suggest a $250 reel. Lol 2 Quote
LMB KING Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 I'm glad someone knows how it feels. Some people on this forum you ask for a decent cheap reel suggestion and they suggest a $250 reel. Lol True... Now a days every penny counts so spend your money on gear wisely. You can also get very good tackle on Ebay and Craigslist. 1 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 True... Now a days every penny counts so spend your money on gear wisely. You can also get very good tackle on Ebay and Craigslist. I don't mind buying used baits, but gear you never know how much the previous owner used it or if they took care of it very well. Quote
dam0007 Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 Wether you go braid mono or fluoro. Dont over fill the spool!!! Spinning gear, especially 2500 size you dont need to fill it all the way to the edge of the spool lip. 2 Quote
ThatZX14Fella Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 Wether you go braid mono or fluoro. Dont over fill the spool!!! Spinning gear, especially 2500 size you dont need to fill it all the way to the edge of the spool lip. I always keep it a little ways from the edge of the spool. Quote
LMB KING Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 I only use my baitcast set-up for punchig, flipping and pitching. Everything else i use my spinning set-up. 2500 is the best size. I load mines up with 20 pound braid. 1 Quote
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