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I'm thinking about using 30 lb sunline super natural mono for my swimbait combo just so it can double for mag topwaters like lunker punkers. What do u guys think? What line do u use?

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I'm sorry, I meant mono for big baits and floaters. Use the floor for your slow sink and fast sink baits.

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You could use 25 lb mono, 30 lb may be a little bigger diameter than you need for bass or swimbaits under 6 oz.

Tom

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Neither. I prefer P-line CXX in 20 or 25 lb size.

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Neither.  I never use nylon or fluorocarbon with swimbaits.

 

Roger

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Copolymer like CXX is mono!

Tom

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Copolymer like CXX is mono!

Tom

My friend, dont't get mad, I do understand the frustration of trying to teach our fellow members that they discontinue the use of the term MONO when refering to nylon, that nylon, copolymers and fluorocarbon are monofilament and so on, but you know what ? I'm tired so to the hell with it. I don't get how ill applied terms can stick for so long. To the OP, use whatever line you feel comfortable with, I fish my swimbaits with copoly, I trust CXX, that thing is ridiculously strong.
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When someone generically refers to "mono," 99.92% of the time they mean nylon monofilament. Even the title says mono or fluoro. Copolymer is not nylon mono. Neither is fluoro. Neither is a fluoro coated line like Hybrid or Fluoroclear.

Rather than constantly correcting what is a common colloqualism for old fashioned nylon fishing line, make specific suggestions if what works for, using your own nomenclature.

Better yet, wrote an article for submission that clearly identifies all the line types, with their proper classifications aligned with their colloquial names. If it's good, we'll probably publish it.

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Not angry! Bass fishing terms change constantly. I tried to keep the pegged sinker bullet sinker to be called the Florida rig and the sliding bullet weight sinker the Texas rig. Today a Texas rig refers to how the worm is hooked, not the sliding bullet weight, which was one element of a Texas.

Fluorocarbon line has always been called that, not mono. The fact is mono is Nylon polymer, so is copolymer line and still is. Hybrid is nylon coated with fluorocarbon.

Weeds are grass and bass are bass, although we sometimes forget there are several varieties of both.

Enjoy your time on the water Roger, we are not getting any younger!

Peace.

Tom

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In my reply above, I intentionally substituted the word 'mono' with "Nylon".

I only do this for the benefit of newcomers to our sport.  You might say, I'm clinging to the hope

that they may not perpetuate misnomers. Why not?  It costs me nothing to use proper terminology.

 

John said that 99.92% of the time, the generic reference to nylon is "mono", but I believe the percentage is closer to 99.94%  :bushy-browed:

 

While we're discussing semantics, be careful of the difference between P-line CXX and P-line CX.

The former is 'monofilament', while the latter is 'cofilament'.

 

Roger

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While we're discussing semantics, be careful of the difference between P-line CXX and P-line CX.

 

 

There is a HUGE difference between CXX and CX:

 

CXX is EXTRA EXTRA strong, CX is merely EXTRA strong. :eyebrows:

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The OP's ? Was 30 lb Sunline Super Natural mono, my suggestion was use 25 lb, from there P-Line CXX was suggested instead of mono.

P-Line CXX is a tough strong mono and so is Sunline Super Natural, I have used CXX 20 lb for swimbaits and didn't like the memory issues in cold weather, otherwise it's a good line. Sunline Diefer mono would be my choice today, but the OP didn't ask what line to use, he likes Super Natural and it's good line.

Don't know what swimbait the OP plans to use?

Where is the anger, we disagree that CXX is a mono.

Tom

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You could use 25 lb mono, 30 lb may be a little bigger diameter than you need for bass or swimbaits under 6 oz.

Tom

 

30 lb Sunline Super Natural has a smaller diameter than all 25 lb monos in other brands, I believe. Don't quote me on that though.

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JGBassin is right that's why I love it. Also it's the cheapest sunline at $7.00 for 330 yds. Same price as trilene. Sunline way better though. I have 16 lb that's te same diameter as 12 lb trilene. Only problem is its not the most abrasion resesitant line that's why i want to use 30 lb. ill be fishing weedless Huddleston 68s in grass and big lunker punkers. About the heaviest swimbait ill through on this combo is 6 oz. rago skeet pro swimmers and rof 16 hudds

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JGBassin is right that's why I love it. Also it's the cheapest sunline at $7.00 for 330 yds. Same price as trilene. Sunline way better though. I have 16 lb that's te same diameter as 12 lb trilene. Only problem is its not the most abrasion resesitant line that's why i want to use 30 lb. ill be fishing weedless Huddleston 68s in grass and big lunker punkers. About the heaviest swimbait ill through on this combo is 6 oz. rago skeet pro swimmers and rof 16 hudds

 

I throw mine on 25 lb CXX (not the most manageable line IMO), but I do not throw them often as I fish mostly deep water. I might chunk them around docks if I am on Wilson Lake, but that's it. I think the 30 lb Sunline Super Natural would do you just fine. I use it in 20 lb for topwater and it is the best topwater line that I have used to date. I can't comment on its abrasion resistance BasshunterJGH, as I have not used it on anything but topwater. I would think though that the 30 lb would be a lot more abrasion resistant like you stated. I think the reason that I throw them on CXX is because I know it's strength so I don't have to worry about losing a $20 or more lure haha.

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I may have to give Sunline a try. Sounds like good stuff. With CXX, frequent treatment with KVD L&L is a requirement for me. For it to work best, soak the spool and let dry over night. Then retreat after each trip with a spritz or three.

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