Dedicated Flipping Reels

[dam0007]

What do you guys use? Is it better to have a small reel ie Curado 50/51 or a full size reel with a shallow spool? Wanna do a dedicated flipping reel. 20 yards of line. Set it and forget it. No pitching with said reel.

[OntarioFishingGuy]

I prefer a full size reel. High drag poundage, Large handle, and lots of power. A shallow spool would also be advantageous. This is coming from a guy who managed to catch a sucker punching with a jig(he ate it in the mouth) so discount everything I just said.

[WRB]

You don 't use your reel when flipping, you do when pitching.

Tom

[F14A-B]

That small reel (50/51) is comfy... But I find it's power lacking, but that's me.. Idk how you are going to flip and NEVER have a oppertunity to pitch though.. However I believe in speed in flipping and pitching, but if you're Only going to truly just flip? I'd probably go with power over speed... I do both when I visit Florida or Texas.

Ain't liking that twing are ya? Lol... I ain't sure yet I have not even tryed one!

[iabass8]

You don 't use your reel when flipping, you do when pitching.

Tom

Thanks professor.....Why don't you show us your flipping set up with just a piece of line tied to your rod then!....I see what you're getting at but unless you're not using a reel, that did absolutely nothing to help and just came off as arrogant.

 

To the OP, just get something that's comfortable to hold and feels good on your rod. Unless you're Tom, most of us use reels when flipping and comfort, for me, is the most important aspect to a flipping set up since you're going to be going through the same exact motion for the most part for possibly hours on end. I prefer 50 size shimanos if you go the shimano route. 

[dam0007]

Thanks professor.....Why don't you show us your flipping set up with just a piece of line tied to your rod then!....I see what you're getting at but unless you're not using a reel, that did absolutely nothing to help and just came off as arrogant.

To the OP, just get something that's comfortable to hold and feels good on your rod. Unless you're Tom, most of us use reels when flipping and comfort, for me, is the most important aspect to a flipping set up since you're going to be going through the same exact motion for the most part for possibly hours on end. I prefer 50 size shimanos if you go the shimano route.

I'm doing the whole pull the line with one hand and guide it into pockets. I tied on about 30ft of braid onto a full spool of FC and haven't made it to the knot. Just drop it in a pocket, bam! Fish hits it on the fall, crank down set the hook and swing em in the boat. I'm using my 2 omens and curados for all pitching stuff when I'm not up on top of the weeds. The lakes here everything is submerged so literally dropping 4 ft off the side of the boat. Twing is awesome but not for this.

Edit* let me restate something so i don't sound like a asshat. Lakes here, the prime locations to flip have submerged weeds. Therefore we just troll through them when they're scattered. If they're heavier or denser we'll follow the outside weed line. Literally on top of it though. If we're working a shoreline or docks I'll just pitch. Pitching I normally use jigs and soft plastics. Can't really pitch a brush hog with a 1 1/2 oz weight into a downed tree. Lol

[Catch and Grease]

You don 't use your reel when flipping, you do when pitching.

Tom

What do you flip with? A cane pole?

[new2BC4bass]

I think you guys are being a little harsh with Tom.  I think I understand what he means.  Every technique requires the use of a reel to cast....except flipping.  I've never used that technique, but my understanding is you only use what line clears the end of the rod and the water while extending the none rod hand to add as much line as you can before flipping.  You could reel the fish in, or simply lift the fish out with the rod....while stretching out the offhand with the line slipping through an open hand with no need to reel in.

 

EDIT:  I started fishing at 5 with a can pole.  Kind of the definition of flipping if you ask me. 

[Montanaro]

Are you saying you put don't your flipping rod and pick up a pitching rod when you need to hit a further target, or are you saying there is so much cover you never have to pitch?

Either way I'd go lightweight and comfortable.

[Catch and Grease]

I think you guys are being a little harsh with Tom. I think I understand what he means. Every technique requires the use of a reel to cast....except flipping. I've never used that technique, but my understanding is you only use what line clears the end of the rod and the water while extending the none rod hand to add as much line as you can before flipping. You could reel the fish in, or simply lift the fish out with the rod....while stretching out the offhand with the line slipping through an open hand with no need to reel in.

EDIT: I started fishing at 5 with a can pole. Kind of the definition of flipping if you as me.

I was kidding, but to say that you don't use your reel when flipping Is just false. Sure the rod is a lot more important IMO but there are some reels that are a good choice for flipping and some arent so much.

[OroBass]

Understood. Tom is a very experienced angler with alot of great advise. Im sure he wasn't trying to sound arrogant.

[Raul]

Ok, so back to the original question. I don't have a dedicated flipping reel, my flipping reel is usually the one with the heaviest line at the moment. You can say I could have a dedicated flipping reel, my XLT PLUS series Abus have a "flipping switch" which I have used maybe 10 times in the 20+ years those reels have.

[OroBass]

I've been curious about the ardent reel with permanent 22 lbs of drag. Might be a good action due to it being specifically designed for pitching and flippin.

[Catch and Grease]

I've been curious about the ardent reel with permanent 22 lbs of drag. Might be a good action due to it being specifically designed for pitching and flippin.

My friend has one of these he uses for flipping and he says he loves it and I have held it and it seems to work good and feels good.... Never really used it for more than a few hours though.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

You don't need anything too specific for a flipping or pitching. A good quality reel with a metal frame and good drag (as in adjustable and smooth with decent power). Locked down drags are unnecessary and needlessly hard on equipment. If you'll be doing some pitching good free-spool is helpful. A 50 size reel is plenty capable. I prefer a fast reel for tackling up slack or reeling down quickly. The right rod will move the fish up and out so there is no need to winch them.

[WdyCrankbait]

This might give you an idea Dam0007,

 

I've got a 50E that DVT put in a 7 to 1 gear set for me, carbontex drag, and orange Boca bearings.  Then, the 102mm Hawgtech swept handle was added.  I do prefer a smaller spool.  To me it makes using lighter weights easier when a delicate presentation is needed.

 

 

The drag has the power for sure.  I really like the Carbontex drag washers!

 

The handle is a little weird to get used to being so large, but nice when a bigger fish is on.  Plus, the me the Boca Bearings allow you to be more precise on repeated pitches. 

[F14A-B]

This might give you an idea Dam0007,

I've got a 50E that DVT put in a 7 to 1 gear set for me, carbontex drag, and orange Boca bearings. Then, the 102mm Hawgtech swept handle was added. I do prefer a smaller spool. To me it makes using lighter weights easier when a delicate presentation is needed.

The drag has the power for sure. I really like the Carbontex drag washers!

The handle is a little weird to get used to being so large, but nice when a bigger fish is on. Plus, the me the Boca Bearings allow you to be more precise on repeated pitches.

Sweet! Nice Mods....

[South FLA]

The handle is a little weird to get used to being so large, but nice when a bigger fish is on.  Plus, the me the Boca Bearings allow you to be more precise on repeated pitches. 

 

 

I usually recommend the 94mm Hawg Handle for Flipipng and Pitching, the longer 102MM that you have in your picture is what I use primarily for moving baits.

[dam0007]

Are you saying you put don't your flipping rod and pick up a pitching rod when you need to hit a further target, or are you saying there is so much cover you never have to pitch?

Either way I'd go lightweight and comfortable.

basically! Lol

[dam0007]

You don't need anything too specific for a flipping or pitching. A good quality reel with a metal frame and good drag (as in adjustable and smooth with decent power). Locked down drags are unnecessary and needlessly hard on equipment. If you'll be doing some pitching good free-spool is helpful. A 50 size reel is plenty capable. I prefer a fast reel for tackling up slack or reeling down quickly. The right rod will move the fish up and out so there is no need to winch them.

yea my 2 pitching combos brakes are off and tension is right at the point of spool movement lol yea 50 with maybe a shallow spool might be the ticket.

[dam0007]

This might give you an idea Dam0007,

I've got a 50E that DVT put in a 7 to 1 gear set for me, carbontex drag, and orange Boca bearings. Then, the 102mm Hawgtech swept handle was added. I do prefer a smaller spool. To me it makes using lighter weights easier when a delicate presentation is needed.

The drag has the power for sure. I really like the Carbontex drag washers!

The handle is a little weird to get used to being so large, but nice when a bigger fish is on. Plus, the me the Boca Bearings allow you to be more precise on repeated pitches.

that's right up my ally! I think I'm sold on a 50. Dvt is the man! Few weeks he'll be doing a custom rod for me... Anyhow that handle, what's the length of the original? I never checked. Does it feel longer? But after fishing these daiwas I love the swept style.

[F14A-B]

I got a 102mm on my cte200gt... It's a awesome very well made in USA /Fl. Carbon handle... I am not exactly sure... But I would bet less than 90 mm for sure. You would like it I am certain. I got to order a couple more with color, just money right? Gotta love fishing! But I ain't flipping or pitchin in Florida or Texas with no 50/51 I got big muscle for that work! It would work I suppose, but naaa, not for me!

[WdyCrankbait]

You will definitly notice the longer 102mm handle when using it on a 50E.  The main item is, your hand will be cupping the 50, almost hiding in your hand, and your right hand will be making larger turns reeling in.  Not what your use to, not bad, just different.

 

I am not sure of the original length of the handle OEM on the 50, but I would guess it is less than 90mm.  (yea, I do love the swept handles as well now!)

 

And South FLA is probably right.  I have noticed when I change over and use a DT-10 in this 50E of mine, the swept handle pays off.  Much easier to reel in.   My 50 is my main do anything type reel now.  I have a Revo Rocket for pitching, but that reel and I are not jiving up right now.  

 

hope that helps dam007 

[dam0007]

You will definitly notice the longer 102mm handle when using it on a 50E. The main item is, your hand will be cupping the 50, almost hiding in your hand, and your right hand will be making larger turns reeling in. Not what your use to, not bad, just different.

I am not sure of the original length of the handle OEM on the 50, but I would guess it is less than 90mm. (yea, I do love the swept handles as well now!)

And South FLA is probably right. I have noticed when I change over and use a DT-10 in this 50E of mine, the swept handle pays off. Much easier to reel in. My 50 is my main do anything type reel now. I have a Revo Rocket for pitching, but that reel and I are not jiving up right now.

hope that helps dam007

awesome info thanks. I'll actually be doing a lefty reel though. If shimanos are 90 I bet the Tatulas are longer. So yea I'd be happy.

Well now I have my next 3 purchases planned out. OT check can't come fast enough lol

[adam lancia]

awesome info thanks. I'll actually be doing a lefty reel though. If shimanos are 90 I bet the Tatulas are longer. So yea I'd be happy.

Well now I have my next 3 purchases planned out. OT check can't come fast enough lol

 

The Tatula handles are 90mm, just an fyi in case you're hoping (as I was!) for a longer stock handle on that reel.