Super User K_Mac Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 As said in the other FC thread, it is really a matter of personal choice. I believe the advantages outweigh the additional cost and perceived handling issues. I believe using it gives me greater feel, resulting in more fish. You will have to draw your own conclusions. Quote
Mainebass1984 Posted July 23, 2014 Author Posted July 23, 2014 I was most certainly getting more bites on 8 lb flouro then 12 lb. I can see bottom very clearly in 20 feet where I have been fishing. If there is any small advantage in transparency I am going to use it. As I mentioned before I almost always tie a palomar knot. I do thoroughly wet the line when using any knot. Is there a different knot I should be using ? Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 23, 2014 Super User Posted July 23, 2014 I was most certainly getting more bites on 8 lb flouro then 12 lb. I can see bottom very clearly in 20 feet where I have been fishing. If there is any small advantage in transparency I am going to use it. As I mentioned before I almost always tie a palomar knot. I do thoroughly wet the line when using any knot. Is there a different knot I should be using ? The palomar lnot is known to cut itself at times. The thinner the line, the more likely this is. I've always used an improved clinch and it has worked well. I know a lot of people like the uni, trilene, san diego jam, or any number of popular knots. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 23, 2014 Global Moderator Posted July 23, 2014 I was most certainly getting more bites on 8 lb flouro then 12 lb. I can see bottom very clearly in 20 feet where I have been fishing. If there is any small advantage in transparency I am going to use it. As I mentioned before I almost always tie a palomar knot. I do thoroughly wet the line when using any knot. Is there a different knot I should be using ? Learn to tie a San Diego Jam. I tie it carefully, slowly, and hold the knot in my mouth as I tighten it slowly. When tied correctly it's extremely strong. The added benefits of a GOOD fluorocarbon (big emphasis on good) far outweigh the negatives and make it a much better line than mono for the situation you're using it for. It isn't completely invisible, but it's much less visible than mono and on a long hookset mono stretches like a rubber band. Fluoro still stretches, just a lot less than mono does. I know a few guys who like it, but I've had nothing but bad experiences with Vanish. Seaguar and Sunline make my favorite fluoros. 1 Quote
Mainebass1984 Posted July 23, 2014 Author Posted July 23, 2014 I have had great success using a palomar knot when using mono and braid. Extremely rare to have a knot fail or get broken off and I like to fish the thickest nastiest weeds and trees. I hadn't been broken off this year at all until I started using fluorocarbon for a couple specific situations. Looks like I will be using a new knot for flouro. The Vanish is getting trashed. I am going to pick up some Seaguar. 1 Quote
Super User senile1 Posted July 23, 2014 Super User Posted July 23, 2014 I have had great success using a palomar knot when using mono and braid. Extremely rare to have a knot fail or get broken off and I like to fish the thickest nastiest weeds and trees. I hadn't been broken off this year at all until I started using fluorocarbon for a couple specific situations. Looks like I will be using a new knot for flouro. The Vanish is getting trashed. I am going to pick up some Seaguar. There you go. I do think you will notice an improvement in the breakage. Let us know if you see an improvement. If Vanish still has a brittleness problem after all these years, Berkley should be kicking themselves. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted July 23, 2014 Super User Posted July 23, 2014 The San Diego Jam knot has become my go-to for everything. It is strong and easy to tie. Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted July 23, 2014 Super User Posted July 23, 2014 The first fluoro I ever used was Vanish. Bought it because it was the cheapest. Never ever had a problem with it. The first fluoro I ever had a problem with was Seaguar. Ironically, Seaguar is all I use now. If I had pitched it because of my first experience, I would be missing out on a good line. I just recently got a spool of Seaguar that had broken places as it was coming off the spool. Just threw it out. It didn't turn me against Seaguar. It's just a fact, that sometimes you're going to get an apple with a worm in it. That's life...lol. Hootie Quote
Smokinal Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I don't care for it as my main line (too much memory for me) but I use it as leader on everything. I have always used an improved clinch and don't think I've ever had a knot break. I wet it well and snug it down very slowly. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted July 25, 2014 Super User Posted July 25, 2014 Much ado about nothing. I used fluorocarbon line before most anglers, because the price during the 1990s was hyper-inflated. I used it for leader material on my saltwater rigs, but found fluoro leaders to be unremarkable. Oddly, this thread asks for opinions on fluorocarbon line, yet it reads like a 'knot-strength' thread (i.e. Red Flag). Fluorocarbon is touted as having a refractive index similar to water, but that really doesn't light my fire. IMO, 'line diameter' is more important than 'line visibility' where the finer the line, the more natural the delivery. Does 'line visibility' really matter to bass? Maybe, but I'm still waiting for something to hang my hat on. Actually, I secretly wish that it was just that simple, because I still remember a few good fluoro knots Roger Quote
rboat Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 I don't really care for flourocarbon line. I have had it snap on a moderate hook set, had knots fail, and it seems to have more of a memory problem. It is extremely smooth and mostly invisible and I am sure it has some great applications. Our water here is mostly dark, shallow and weedy so a line that sinks faster can be a burden. To each his own, If it works good for you, use it. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted July 26, 2014 Super User Posted July 26, 2014 I'd put 20pd Yo-Zuri against any floro... In regards to tuffness , that said the feel of floro is unique. Quote
Mr. BattleArmor Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 I've only used fluoro as leader for braided line when i'm salt water fishing. For freshwater I've never had problems with mono, never enough where it warranted me wanting to try fluoro as main line. Quote
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