Mainebass1984 Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I recently started using 8 lb fluorocarbon. At first I loved it. I was casting a bit further and getting plenty more bites then when I was using 12 lb mono. I also like how transparent fluorocarbon is in the water. The past couple times I have been I haven't been quite as impressed. I am not sure why but the line seems to be brittle. One little nick in the line and it breaks very easily. I would also say in my opinion so far it isn't the best idea to use it around heavy cover as I have had a couple big fish break me off n some very thick stuff. I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on fluorocarbon and there experience with it. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 If you're fishing heavy cover with 8lb line, it's not the line. It has better abrasion resistance, in relation to diameter, than mono or braid. 2 Quote
einscodek Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Love flouro Finesse and open water situations only 4 me Around cover and rocks I aint takin a chance losing an expensive lure.. its brittle and some manufacturers are more brittle than others Quote
Super User Raul Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 8 lb FC is not for heavy cover. 1 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 Love flouro Finesse and open water situations only 4 me Around cover and rocks I aint takin a chance losing an expensive lure.. its brittle and some manufacturers are more brittle than others It's actually the opposite. Quality fluoro is the least brittle around cover and rocks. 1 Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 I fish mostly Fluoro. 8lb leaders on all my spinning gear - Seaguar InvizX, Braid for a main line Baitcasters - range from 12-15lbs - Seaguar InvizX Heavy Cover - 17-20lb Seaguar AbrazX The only rod which I keep mono on is my topwater rod. 12 -15 lb mono. Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 I am almost exactly like Felix, except all of my baitcasters except those for topwater have Abrazx (12 to 20lb). The extra abrasion resistance comes in useful fishing around heavier cover. A spinning rod with 8lb is just not going to hold up very well. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 Much ado about nothing. 1 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 I've been a braid guy for years. Just spooled up my new Curado I with 10 lb. flouro to try it out again. I can't say I'm overly impressed with it so far, but I do seem to get more strikes compared to my boatmate while using it. Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 Yeah 8lb isn't gonna hold up very well in heavy cover. And you also have lack of stretch that you get with mono so it may be breaking at the knot when you swing. Most of the time when FC breaks on me it's at the knot which is the weakest spot. And depending on what knot, how you tied it, and weather there was enough moisture/lube (spit) when tightening, these all can cause failer. Also, depending on how you store your line....if it's in a hot place then it could effect the strenght as well. And last, well ofcourse brand you're fishing with can make a difference too. My advice if you feel little dent or irregularities in your line when you're either spooling or fishing, it's been compromised and needs to be replaced. This can happen the farther down the filler spool you get as well. Quote
doyle8218 Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I don't use FC anymore. I use Yo-Zuri instead with zero problems. Quote
Cgrinder Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I'm just getting into using it as a mainline. I like it so far. Quote
masterbass Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I use long 8' fluoro leaders on braid. I hear so much about fluoro having slack line sensitivity. Do you think using long leaders will give me the same benefits? Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 I use long 8' fluoro leaders on braid. I hear so much about fluoro having slack line sensitivity. Do you think using long leaders will give me the same benefits? 8' is plenty long and you should still get all the benefits you are looking for from the FC. I use anywhere from 3-8' depending on what I'm doing. Quote
Mainebass1984 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Posted July 22, 2014 I do realize 8lb fluorocarbon is not ideal for heavy cover. Usually when I fish heavy cover I use 50 lb power pro. The particular place where I have been fishing it is in open water right on a drop that goes 8 to 30 feet. The problem is that along sections of this drop off there is very thick pond weed that grows up off bottom 10 feet. I always tie a palomar knot and moisten it before tightening it. I guess this leads into another question I ask myself. Should I cast into that heavy cover which is sometimes woody knowing that I may not be able to get the fish out but at the same time feeling as if the best chance of getting that bite is with the light line and fluorocarbon ? Or should I cast 12 lb mono knowing the chance of landing that fish is better then using 8 lb fluorocarbon ? I do have the utmost confidence if I hook that big fish with 50 lb braid that its coming in the boat even if I am breaking trees on the way to getting it in the boat. Another question. What is your favorite fluorocarbon brand ? I had been using Berkley vanish. I have been using this line for a month or so now. The number of bites I have been catching has dramatically increased over 12 lb mono fishing the same lure. I have caught some quality fish using it too, including a 5-0 and a 5-2, fishing in very thick weeds. I was liking the line very much until it was seemed like it was getting very very brittle. I lost 2 very large bass that broke the line after getting into heavy cover but it seemed to break way easier then it had been. I had been keeping the rod and reel in my truck. Does prolonged exposure to sunlight cause fluorocarbon to break down ? Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 I wouldn't use mono, not very abrasion resistant. For flouro, you will get a few different answers on what to use. but almost everyone will say get rid of the vanish. My personal experience is to use Seaquar Invizx on spinning and Abrazx on baitcast gear. I have had extremely good results with it. unlike mono sunlight will not breakdown flouro. 1 Quote
Bmurr7 Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I use 6,7 or 8lb fluoro for drop shots and I love it. Lately I've been using P-line's 8lb fluorocarbon coated mono and it's been amazingly strong, ridiculously strong actually.... It's not as brittle as straight FC and I still get abrasion resistance and less memory than I would with mono, also sinks a little faster . I use 14-17lb FC for spinnerbaits (personal preference- I like mono here too or braid with fluoro leader) and some Texas rig and weightless Senko situations, the FC helps the weightless senkos or wacky's sink faster and I get better sensitivity, less stretch and it holds up well when working the worm over bottom. Casts are great with fluoro as well because its slick and smooth (keep it wound tight on the spool though!!) and I've gained quite a bit of casting distance with fluoro. Anyway, I hated fluoro at first, I increased the brake a little on my reel, and just learned how to use fluoro better and with some practice it's now one of my favorite lines. In heavy cover though braid will always be my favorite. If you're going to use fluoro for heavy cover, use 17-25lb. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 I use long 8' fluoro leaders on braid. I hear so much about fluoro having slack line sensitivity. Do you think using long leaders will give me the same benefits?No. The fluoro will still have the benefits, but they'll never reach you. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 I would do away with Vanish, the polamar, and use heavier line. Is there a reason you don't just use 12lb fluoro? Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I recently started using 8 lb fluorocarbon. At first I loved it. I was casting a bit further and getting plenty more bites then when I was using 12 lb mono. I also like how transparent fluorocarbon is in the water. The past couple times I have been I haven't been quite as impressed. I am not sure why but the line seems to be brittle. One little nick in the line and it breaks very easily. I would also say in my opinion so far it isn't the best idea to use it around heavy cover as I have had a couple big fish break me off n some very thick stuff. I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on fluorocarbon and there experience with it. waste of money. go back to the mono. transparency shmansparency, ive had multiple bluegill attack FC line in the water in front of me, yet the same school of bluegill ignored mono... Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 waste of money. go back to the mono. transparency shmansparency, ive had multiple bluegill attack FC line in the water in front of me, yet the same school of bluegill ignored mono...There's more to it than just the claims of invisibility. Even if it and mono look identical under water, fluoro has many other properties that make it superior in most situations. Good fluoro has better sensitivity, less stretch, better abrasion resistance, it sinks faster, it doesn't degrade under uv light, and it lasts much longer. Only downfall is knot strength, but done properly, that's a non-issue. 1 Quote
Super User senile1 Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 Another question. What is your favorite fluorocarbon brand ? I had been using Berkley vanish. I have been using this line for a month or so now. The number of bites I have been catching has dramatically increased over 12 lb mono fishing the same lure. I have caught some quality fish using it too, including a 5-0 and a 5-2, fishing in very thick weeds. I was liking the line very much until it was seemed like it was getting very very brittle. I lost 2 very large bass that broke the line after getting into heavy cover but it seemed to break way easier then it had been. I had been keeping the rod and reel in my truck. Does prolonged exposure to sunlight cause fluorocarbon to break down ? I used Berkley Vanish a few years back and swore off of it rather quickly. I had a lot of issues with brittleness and breakage. I read a number of complaints from others about it back then. I switched to BassPro and Cabelas FC lines at the time and eventually worked my way to Seaguar which is mostly what I use for fluorocarbon applications now. I assumed Berkley would have corrected the issues with Vanish since that time. You probably already do this, but make sure you wet the FC knot profusely before pulling it tight. It can cut into itself if you aren't careful. Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 There's more to it than just the claims of invisibility. Even if it and mono look identical under water, fluoro has many other properties that make it superior in most situations. Good fluoro has better sensitivity, less stretch, better abrasion resistance, it sinks faster, it doesn't degrade under uv light, and it lasts much longer. Only downfall is knot strength, but done properly, that's a non-issue. all stuff that is so minimal it rarely makes a difference anyways. mono is much better in my opinion, especially for the difference in price as well... Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 22, 2014 Super User Posted July 22, 2014 all stuff that is so minimal it rarely makes a difference anyways. mono is much better in my opinion, especially for the difference in price as well...The price difference doesn't mean much when you don't have to respool fluoro for a few years. Quote
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