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Hey guys I'm in need of a little help. I recently bought a different boat, and for whatever reason the pedestal posts are seized. The posts are the normal locking kind with the plastic type clip that prevents them from popping back out. I'm not sure how they got SOO locked in. I've tried using a pipe wrench on them to get them to twist even a little, but had no luck. Is there anyone here who's had that problem and found a somewhat easy remedy? Thanks in advance!

 

(Ps the bases do have the plastic inserts in them still and here's a picture of the pedestals I have.http://www.basspro.com/Springfield-SpringLock-Power-Rise-Pedestals/product/20209/)

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Hi- You may want to take the bases and all out? A buddy of mine got a boat with the same type base. someone had put them together,then drilled a hole through them and bolted them together,and used some sort of adhesive also.

They had no plans of taking them out,and did it ti keep people from stealing them. Hope you get it figured out.

  • Super User
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Hi- You may want to take the bases and all out? A buddy of mine got a boat with the same type base. someone had put them together,then drilled a hole through them and bolted them together,and used some sort of adhesive also.

They had no plans of taking them out,and did it ti keep people from stealing them. Hope you get it figured out.

The bottoms of the bases fit into a recessed area that comes out in the livewell. They still might have something in there I guess, but I was hoping for a fix without having to pull them out. If I have to pull them, it also means I have to score the carpet. Anyway thanks for your help though.

  • 1 month later...
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I had the same problem with my bow seat - sprayed some penetrating oil (purchased at Home Depot) on the pedestal and let it run down into the post and sleeve.  Waited a few minutes and was able to remove the pedestal.  Some sanding of the post on the bottom of the pedestal with fine sand paper and cleaning the receptacle in the floor fixed the problem.  This was also the advise I got from the local BPS service dept.  Now I keep a can of penetrating oil handy for lots of different uses.  Hope this helps.

  • Like 1
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I think the nylon inserts swell. I got mine out by taking the whole pedestal out and putting it in the freezer overnight, sounds like that is not an option for you though. Once you do get it out, ream the hole in the nylon bushing out a little. I did it with a 3/4 inch paddle bit. Still snug enough to keep from rocking, but not so tight to get stuck.

  • Super User
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We used to have that often with used boats.  We used WD-40 on them, let them set, then applied a pipe wrench.

  • Super User
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I got the back one out by using WD40 and finally got it to spin a little until I could work it out. After it came out I sanded the nylon insert with some course grit sand paper for a while and got the seat to go back in and only be snug but not rock. Plus I'm thinking with it being roughed up now it won't be as likely to stick to the metal. 

 

Unfortunately for me though, I have yet to make any headway on the front one. I tried WD40 and a pipe wrench. I tried using a really small drill bit to drill into the nylon to help the WD get down in as well and even leaning with my full weight on the pipe wrench it wouldn't budge. I really hope I can get that out soon, I'm sick of my butt seat being in the back of my knees lol. 

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I got the back one out by using WD40 and finally got it to spin a little until I could work it out. After it came out I sanded the nylon insert with some course grit sand paper for a while and got the seat to go back in and only be snug but not rock. Plus I'm thinking with it being roughed up now it won't be as likely to stick to the metal. 

 

Unfortunately for me though, I have yet to make any headway on the front one. I tried WD40 and a pipe wrench. I tried using a really small drill bit to drill into the nylon to help the WD get down in as well and even leaning with my full weight on the pipe wrench it wouldn't budge. I really hope I can get that out soon, I'm sick of my butt seat being in the back of my knees lol. 

Might try some PB Blaster, spray it let it set spray again, do this several times. Let it sit over night then try loosing it like above. 

 

Try to not get it on your carpet.

  • Super User
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Here's a technique I learned in the oil patch.  Assuming that you will be replacing the pedestal,  have a colleague take a strong bind on the pedestal with a pipe wrench, and then take a large hammer and beat the crap out of the pedestal at its base, all the way around it.  I learned the technique with a 36" pipe wrench and a 12 pound sledge hammer, but the pipe was of a significantly larger diameter.  Works when all else fails except heating with a blow-torch, but I don't think your carpet would appreciate a torch.

  • Super User
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PB Blaster and a pipe wrench should do the trick.

  • Super User
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I've got some PB Blaster soaking on it right now. I sprayed it last night and I'll spray it tonight again when I get home from work and let it sit a bit before taking the pipe wrench to it. Fingers crossed that it comes out! Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it. 

  • Super User
Posted

If that doesn't do it, it's time for a whole new base and pedestal, lol. 

  • Super User
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Yeah, I'd like to avoid that if at all possible, since that would mean cutting the carpet that's in good shape. If worst comes to worst that's what I'll do.

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I had a similiar problem.  Tried the oils, pipe wrench, hammers, etc.  What finally worked was to heat the pedestal @ the base w/ a propane torch, let it cool a bit, then back to the wrench.  You can do it w/o burning the carpet.

  • Super User
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I had a similiar problem.  Tried the oils, pipe wrench, hammers, etc.  What finally worked was to heat the pedestal @ the base w/ a propane torch, let it cool a bit, then back to the wrench.  You can do it w/o burning the carpet.

Did you heat it enough to melt the insert?

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Did you heat it enough to melt the insert?

 

No melting!  The theory is that expansion/contraction (due to heating/cooling) of the components breaks (or weakens) whatever bond might be holding them together. Go slow and be patient.

  • Super User
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No melting!  The theory is that expansion/contraction (due to heating/cooling) of the components breaks (or weakens) whatever bond might be holding them together. Go slow and be patient.

Alright, because I was also thinking of trying that as well since if the insert was liquefied it would lose it's grip too.haha

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