Smallmouth Hunter Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Last thing I forgot to mention is the no stretch claims by fluorocarbons. I feel that they do stretch some but not quite as much as some mono/copolymers though. The problem is that once you stretch the fluoro, it will become very weak because it doesn't have the same elastic properties of monofilament lines. If you stretch fluoro too much, it cannot recover and will break very easily which I have found to be a big issue. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted July 29, 2014 Super User Posted July 29, 2014 Last thing I forgot to mention is the no stretch claims by fluorocarbons. I feel that they do stretch some but not quite as much as some mono/copolymers though. The problem is that once you stretch the fluoro, it will become very weak because it doesn't have the same elastic properties of monofilament lines. If you stretch fluoro too much, it cannot recover and will break very easily which I have found to be a big issue. Several years back, TackleTour conducted an ambitious line study. Based on their findings, the difference in elasticity between fluorocarbon and nylon was a wash. The winner in fact, hinged on the brands in the comparison. In several shootouts, fluorocarbon stretched significantly more than nylon. Roger Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted July 29, 2014 Super User Posted July 29, 2014 What is the proper way to test fishing line and knots? I took some of that 8lb Invixz line and tied one end to a hook using different knots and cut off about 2 to 3 feet of line. Then I hooked my tackle bag and grabbed the other end with my hand (using a glove). I weighed my bag fist and it was 10 pounds. The line broke every time before it lifted it off the floor. Then I took out some stuff and got my bag around 8 pounds and line still broke. Then I took out more stuff and got it around 5 and 3/4 pounds. I could then lift the bag but when I slowly bounced it up and down the line would break. Now what's the deal? Shouldn't this eight pound line be able to hold a six pound bag and not break? Was my line too short? Do I need more than 2 and 1/2 feet when I test line? I wouldnt like that at all. If my line is any name 8# it has to test better than 8# in my testing that I perform. Whether its accurate or not I test all my lines with "my test" a digital fish scale, varied lengths of line and hook tied with through eye twice 6 turn uni knot and or palomar knot. I hook into weights and slowly pull up til line snaps/knot gives. If I cant get rated strength with multiple tests I return line or just put it away dont use it. 5- 3/4# for 8# line is awful IMO Quote
hoosierbass07 Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 On second thought, maybe my tests are not right. When I lift my bag with the line I then bounce it softly to see if the line and knot can hold up. I was just thinking, bouncing is going to increase the pull or weight on the line. I'm done with testing at home. The true test will be on the water. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted July 30, 2014 Super User Posted July 30, 2014 I have switched all of my non-topwater rods to flouro, the biggest thing to me was the slack line bites. The density of the line transmits the bites better then other lines, and I fish a lot of baits which have a pause in the retrieve. Before I did this I had several trips where my boater (using flouro) would be beating with several fish to each of mine. I would also go to move the bait sometimes and something would have it. by the time I got a hookset in the fish was gone. Since I have switched I can keep up with my boater and have greatly reduced the lost fish due to not feeling the pickup. +1 ... Excellent example for using fluorocarbon line !! Quote
jhoffman Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 I keep saying I am never gonna run fluoro again and then at some point I do. I put 12lb red label I had in the boat on my crankn rod the other day and thought id have major issues. I then let all the line out with a crankbait and cranked it up before use. I dont know if its the better braking system compared to my old reels or what it is, but with these new reels I didnt have a problem this round. If I can find something that would be consistent with results as far as manageability id probably fish it. Though I gotta say mccoy copoly is some awesome line and has not failed me yet. 15lb mccoy and a jig oh they better watch out. Quote
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