Shimano Stopping The Lifetime Warranty As Of 8-1-14

[tomustang]

This is what a rod will do when it isn't damaged.  I don't think most people are putting this much strain on their rods while fishing.  If your rod breaks after the first year, it's because of something you did to it.

 

That's a nice video, but I can't say I've ever done that while fishing. Is there other videos of tests, that would relate to real world encounters when fishing?

[Capt.Bob]

Bob you can believe what you want. That is my point. You can not claim scientific authority while giving anecdotal "evidence" though. If the science proves your point and you can support that, you have a case. if not you have opinion. "wear out" a fishing rod. 

 

 You simply fail to understand that they are changing the policy on new purchases and requiring proof of purchase on older rods and that is not a breach of contract. It is simply a change of policy.

You must not read any post all the way. I said I am not making these statements. Those are the findings of Gary Loomis, and St. Croix tech's, not me, (and I am quite certain they have tested their findings in their own labratories, which Gary Loomis in more than one video has has shown the closed door to, and stated he will let NO ONE IN because of the research they do in that part of his facility)!! This! As I stated not my opinion,,,,there's!

 

I am not the failing to understand. If this was a fact I would have no problem with the way they are handling it. But unless you have other sources that say they changed the new policy, it is a fact that

 

1) "any rod to be covered under their warranty cannot be replaced over the counter, and now has to shipped to them!!! That waqs not the deal they made with these people at the time they took their money!! 

 

2) The other thing they said is lifetime, not since we changed our policy, now you get a replacement and after a year that is no longer under our coverage, unless you kept the reciept we told you that you don't need!!! also not what the customer was told at the time they took their money!!

 

I have no dog in this fight, and like I said, it is absolutely wrong, many will still benefit because they will continue to abuse it. I see many intentionally breaking a rod and having it replaced just to keep another years warranty. I hope I'm wrong, but this type of customer I am sure is what caused this breach of their contract to begin with. Those that don't abuse it are the ones that will pay for trusting and complying with the agreement between Customer and Company, at the time they made the purchase.

[LMB KING]

Haters gonna hate!!!! Its obvious that G.Loomis is one of the most bulletproof rods on the market and sensitive. Their reputation is second to none. I would of call it Ugly stik Loomis lol. 

[Fisher-O-men]

I have said for years that a person buying a Shimano rod is paying dearly for that warrantee. Same for GLoomis.  It would be nice if a lower price accompanied the new policy, but I'm sure that will not be the case.

[Jrob78]

That's a nice video, but I can't say I've ever done that while fishing. Is there other videos of tests, that would relate to real world encounters when fishing?

I'm sure there are but they wouldn't result in catastrophic failure in an undamaged blank.  That was my point in posting the video.  If a blank is taken care of and not damaged, it won't break in a lifetime of real world fishing situations.

[A-Jay]

 Does all of this fall in line with the Shimano Mission statement ?

 

Right from their web site - interesting.

To promote health and happiness through the enjoyment of nature and the world around us.

 

People know the joy of contacting their hearts to the breathing of nature.

People know the joy of meeting someone to communicate with each other.
That's simply because all people have nature in themselves.
And tools are largely connected with the joy of people.
We at Shimano have been providing attractive products with a focus on cycling and fishing, the most popular outdoor sports.
Wind touching the skin, sunlight streaming through the trees and wave patterns covering the water excite the hearts of people. We are aiming to become a company to create excitements among people.
We will continue to support people to realize their dreams to create new lifestyles to bring them closer to nature and share the joy of life with each other.  Also to keep scumbags from ripping us off.

 

 

(Oh, I added that last part)

 

A-Jay

 

[FishTank]

This is what a rod will do when it isn't damaged.  I don't think most people are putting this much strain on their rods while fishing.  If your rod breaks after the first year, it's because of something you did to it.

 

Love the video....

 

I think it is kind of funny that seven years ago, I bought a Shimano Crucial MH Jig and Worm rod.  It broke on a hook set about 6 inches from the top.  I took it back to BPS, they gave me another one and it did the same thing.  I took that rod back and purchased a G. Loomis IMX 844C.  It is built like a tank.  In the seven years I have had it, I have caught hundreds of fish and never had an issue.  I would like to see some of the Shimano rods, that know will no longer be under warranty, go through the same stress test.

 

On a side, ironic note, I bought a 7' Crankbait Crucial today.

[Capt.Bob]

 

 Does all of this fall in line with the Shimano Mission statement ?

 

  Also to keep scumbags from ripping us off.

 

 

(Oh, I added that last part)

 

A-Jay

 

Obviously they don't care if that means taking advantage of those that don't abuse the warranty also. everyone should promise the world to those willing to support them, who don't misuse their warranty but make them pay for the ones that do! Because Shimano isn't going to.

[A-Jay]

 

And

 

 

 

A-Jay

[tomustang]

And

 

 

 

A-Jay

I have a structured settlement and I need cash now

[A-Jay]

I have a structured settlement and I need cash now

 

I can help you with that but you'll be paying me a sizable percentage.

 

A-Jay

[SirSnookalot]

The video is nice for demonstration but I'm not sure it depicts real life fishing.  I can only assume that in the demonstration there is no reel drag.  Any time there is a fish on the line capable of bending a rod to the proportion as in the video that fish is pulling out drag for sure.  Not only does the drag take pressure of lines and knots it does the rod as well.  One just never knows what is going to strike, I have landed many 100#+ fish striking a 25 lb heavy rod many times, with rod nearly doubled in half.   The drag is what landed the fish and the drag is what keeps the the rod from breaking.  I do not target fish like that with a small rod, but things happen.  My rods are not $300-$400 that I use offshore, that 25lb rod cost me 60 bucks, never wore out and it's still going strong.  I've never had any rod wear out just from catching fish.  Fishing with heavy no stretch line with a locked down drag you're pushing a rod past the limit it was intended for, no wonder some of them break.  The rod hasn't failed, the fishermen pushed the envelop too far.

[ChrisAW]

Does anyone actually have proof that this is happening besides the word if one guys friend? This whole debate without a single link to an actual official Shimano statement.

[K_Mac]

Does anyone actually have proof that this is happening besides the word if one guys friend? This whole debate without a single link to an actual official Shimano statement.

That is great question. I could not find anything on their website.

[iabass8]

Does anyone actually have proof that this is happening besides the word if one guys friend? This whole debate without a single link to an actual official Shimano statement.

There's a ton of retailers that have already announced it via Facebook or their websites. 

 

Here's the official response from Shimano.

"All Shimano rods purchased after August 1st will have a 1 year warranty and will require proof of purchase."

Rods purchased prior to this date will still have the limited lifetime warranty, but it will no longer be over the counter - you will have to send your rod to Shimano.\

 

[Maxximus Redneckus]

Not bashing shimano ,but sounds to me like lews,abu and daiwia have hit a hot spot with reels in the 100-200$ range and they aint the only big boy in town no more.So to make up the diff in money bein lost no more LT warrenty on rods,But i do suspect they will up there knowledge/productin and focus on reels more so in that price range.And just do it like the majority of mass produced rods one yr warrenty.you can make more money selling 1 million rods for 50 bucks then selling 50 thousands rods for 100 bucks

[ChrisAW]

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I work for one of the biggest retailers and we haven't had a single word of this from Shimano or our corporate office.