midgastumpjumper Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 Littering is just ignorance. especially in a river. I don't mind a couple of cold beers and maybe ill crack one occasionally on the way to the ramp but I wouldn't drink 40 ounces and drive, especially if I felt like I had to ask my passenger if it was ok. Quote
midgastumpjumper Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 if I want to drink more beer ill usually go to the river with my canoe (trolling motor) instead of operating a gas powered boat on a larger body of water. At least then i'm not really putting anyone else in danger. and ill need to have someone else with me that agrees to be the designated driver. I would never litter and no one that I fish with would either so its never an issue. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted July 15, 2014 Super User Posted July 15, 2014 Nothing better than a fishing buddy that drinks, drives and litters when he's done. No way I would have held my tongue, the guy is a loser, and perhaps by saying something a seed would have been planted and next time he would have thought twice. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted July 15, 2014 Super User Posted July 15, 2014 So, how was it fishing with Raider? ...I kid. 4 Quote
Nice_Bass Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 So, how was it fishing with Raider? ...I kid. I think everyone knows you are kidding...he does not fish. 4 Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 i never minded someone having a few beers while fishing. just as long as they dont get hammered and give themselves time to sober up some before its time to leave. chances are i will be having a beer or so with them. dont like the littering part though, i feel bad when im fishing off a dock and the wind picks up and blows an empty beer can into the lake. that said, i also think the guy shouldve atleast waited until yall got to the lake to open the 1st 40oz. Quote
Nice_Bass Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 My answer is HELL NO.Who doesn't have a cell phone today?.Just drop me off right here,I'll call someone,to come and get me.I will admit,I do throw my cig butts in the water. I was out rabbit hunting one day,a friend started to take a drink of brady.I said,we are using my dogs,i'd appericate if you wouldn't.He said but i'm cold.Dress better.I know beer and brady isn't the same.But when i'm fishing or hunting,I don't want either around.I am so confused by this. So is it okay to shoot and drink brandy and toss my cigs on the ground so long as your dogs are not there? 4 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted July 16, 2014 Super User Posted July 16, 2014 Hahahaha ^^ I don't know why I Rofl'ed at this Quote
bassmaster8100 Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 No this kind of behavior is never acceptable in my opinion Quote
Bruce424 Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 Just can't stand people that can't do any thing with out alcohol. Ignorance of people making assumptions that drinking and fishing go hand n hand. dont need beer to go fishing. Quote
OroBass Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 I think it's ignorant to judge people who have a few beers when fishing. I don't need beer to fish but don't see a problem with responsibly having a cold one on the water! I don't drink and drive and never litter. But every know and then me and my dad or grandpa will share a 6 pack. I feel it is never Ok to litter but on my waters it's totally legal to have a beer. I've even been stopped by a warden who said he drinks on the sac river on his days off. 3 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 16, 2014 Super User Posted July 16, 2014 Back in the day when I hunting 2 legged prey I drove home tipsy many a night, glad to say I haven't done that in 30 years. In this day in age many people don't leave home without their pistol, I'm not going to drive with some that's drinking and chance he is packing too. That's an element I don't care to be around, the littering would not have been an issue as I wouldn't have been there to see it. As far as I'm concerned only an idiot would even gotten in the car/truck with him in the first place. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 16, 2014 Global Moderator Posted July 16, 2014 Drinking and driving is never ok. He was putting your life, his life, and anyone who he met on the roads lives in jeopardy. I'm not going to pretend I've never done it myself like I'm sure a majority of people have in their lives, but that doesn't make it anymore right. If whoever I'm fishing with wants to enjoy a couple cold ones on the water, that's fine as long as they're not getting falling down drunk. Littering, like drinking and driving, is never ok. I'd have told him to give the empties to me and put them in my tackle bag to be thrown out when we got back to the ramp, which couldn't have happened fast enough if it was me in that situation. Even throwing cigarette butts out the window or out of the boat irritates me. 3 Quote
Zach Dunham Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 We have a responsibly to take care of the waters we fish, God gave us them and we must respect them. We also are responsible for those in our boat, ourselves and other on that body of water. Therefore consuming alcohol is wrong and puts you and others at risk even if you think you are in "good shape" You have a lot to learn my friend. I find it interesting that someone who isn't of legal drinking age is giving advice on alcohol. Believe me, if you have had alcohol more than a few times in your life, 2 beers will not impair you one little bit. 1 Quote
Zach Dunham Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 I think I agree with the majority here. Rare thing, I know, haha. Drinking multiple 40s is definitely irresponsible while operating the boat. Having a couple beers over the course of the day is not irresponsible. Throwing ANYTHING in the water intentionally is not cool. I always have a plastic bag to throw any and all trash in when on the water. I won't have anything to drink during a tournament, obviously, since zero alcohol is usually a rule. If I am out and about for a few hours for fun I might have a couple beers. No big deal. I would definitely have said something to that guy if I was on his boat, though. If he was drinking as much as you say, I wouldn't tolerate anyone adding any risk to my health. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 16, 2014 Global Moderator Posted July 16, 2014 You have a lot to learn my friend. I find it interesting that someone who isn't of legal drinking age is giving advice on alcohol. Believe me, if you have had alcohol more than a few times in your life, 2 beers will not impair you one little bit. I've had my share of alcohol in my life, and while I may not be over the limit after 2 beers I'm certainly feeling it and could be considered impaired for sure. Different people's bodies handle alcohol differently. I've seen guys that could hardly stand after 2 beers, then I'll never forget the night I dealt with a guy who I thought was a little buzzed, he blew a .402. Most people would have needed to go to the hospital or would have been dead already but being a lifelong alcoholic he was able to stand and have a mostly normal conversation with me. Had he not smelled like a brewery I may have never known he'd had a thing to drink. 1 Quote
BadBassWV Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 You have a lot to learn my friend. I find it interesting that someone who isn't of legal drinking age is giving advice on alcohol. Believe me, if you have had alcohol more than a few times in your life, 2 beers will not impair you one little bit. I would have to disagree, I had a buddy that I worked with that was a true alchoholic. He could drink a quart of beer and get smashed. AA describes it as being on the down hill side, you start out being able to drink 6 or 7 and be just fine. When you get on the other side of the hill it takes less and less to get you drunk. I rode to work with a guy who insisted that he stop everyday after work to get 2 tallboys, had to have it on the drive home which was an hour drive in the mountains. After the second day of riding with him, I told him just let me drive, he had no problem with it and I had no problem with him in the passenger seat while he was drinking. Quote
Zach Dunham Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 I've had my share of alcohol in my life, and while I may not be over the limit after 2 beers I'm certainly feeling it and could be considered impaired for sure. Different people's bodies handle alcohol differently. I've seen guys that could hardly stand after 2 beers, then I'll never forget the night I dealt with a guy who I thought was a little buzzed, he blew a .402. Most people would have needed to go to the hospital or would have been dead already but being a lifelong alcoholic he was able to stand and have a mostly normal conversation with me. Had he not smelled like a brewery I may have never known he'd had a thing to drink. Yeah, that is insane. I'm pretty sure a 0.4 would kill most people. I know what you mean, it does affect everyone differently. But that's up to each person to know. I didn't like the blanket statement about it being wrong coming from a guy who can't even drink yet. I still see no problem with a beer or a couple over hours if it doesn't affect that person. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 16, 2014 Super User Posted July 16, 2014 We have a responsibly to take care of the waters we fish, God gave us them and we must respect them. We also are responsible for those in our boat, ourselves and other on that body of water. Therefore consuming alcohol is wrong and puts you and others at risk even if you think you are in "good shape" Well said. Good for you . . . . A-Jay You have a lot to learn my friend. I find it interesting that someone who isn't of legal drinking age is giving advice on alcohol. Believe me, if you have had alcohol more than a few times in your life, 2 beers will not impair you one little bit. Though this young man who's post you referred to, may be short on years, his response here indicates quite a bit of wisdom in my book. A-Jay 3 Quote
Zach Dunham Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 I would have to disagree, I had a buddy that I worked with that was a true alchoholic. He could drink a quart of beer and get smashed. AA describes it as being on the down hill side, you start out being able to drink 6 or 7 and be just fine. When you get on the other side of the hill it takes less and less to get you drunk. I rode to work with a guy who insisted that he stop everyday after work to get 2 tallboys, had to have it on the drive home which was an hour drive in the mountains. After the second day of riding with him, I told him just let me drive, he had no problem with it and I had no problem with him in the passenger seat while he was drinking. Sucks for that alcoholic, I hope he got help. It takes many years of alcoholism to get to the point where your liver is basically non-functioning. As for the other guy, you could get a DUI for him having an open container in your vehicle even if you blow a 0.0 in certain states, and all states have at least some kind of open container violation, I wouldn't keep doing that. Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted July 16, 2014 Super User Posted July 16, 2014 I stopped hanging out with people who drink 40's about 20 years ago. 9 Quote
BadBassWV Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 Sucks for that alcoholic, I hope he got help. It takes many years of alcoholism to get to the point where your liver is basically non-functioning. As for the other guy, you could get a DUI for him having an open container in your vehicle even if you blow a 0.0 in certain states, and all states have at least some kind of open container violation, I wouldn't keep doing that. Yeah, that was along time back. Years ago The police were not as hard on this type of thing as they are today. IMO in todays times There's just too many cars on the road for someone to be drinking just 1 beer. Edit: for the guy who could drink a quart and get smashed, He's dead one to many beers. Liver finally gave out. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted July 16, 2014 Super User Posted July 16, 2014 Drinking/littering On The Water...is It Ever Acceptable? Littering, No!....Drinking and driving, Hell No! Quote
Super User slonezp Posted July 16, 2014 Super User Posted July 16, 2014 So, how was it fishing with Raider? ...I kid. I think everyone knows you are kidding...he does not fish. deaknh knows he's safe. Raider doesn't read any forums but "Everything Else" and the gun forums Quote
Super User slonezp Posted July 16, 2014 Super User Posted July 16, 2014 If I'm not tourney fishing, I'll normally bring a six pack with me and there is normally 4 or 5 left when I'm loading the boat. I'm concentrating on fishing and forget I even opened the beer. 2 Quote
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