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I have been helping my father-in-law fix a few things on his boat and we have gone fishing a few times and he fishes A LOT faster than I like to.  I like to troll to a spot like a weedline with a ledge or a fallen tree and work it and then move on. He prefers to keep the trolling motor at half power putting the speed near 2mph and cast the crankbaits and spinnerbaits. this is far too fast to effectively work the worms, frogs, and craws that I like to fish.

 

Any suggestions would be helpful.

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Could try a swing head jig system with a plastic of your choice. I've found the rage bug puts off a ton of action when both fished like a jig and in a crankbait style.

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Ask him to slow down a bit, or see if you can get some time running the TM.

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If you want to fish plastics, you have to pitch to likely spots, hop it a time or 2 and on to the next pitch.  If he's too far out to pitch, you will have to go with a moving bait or get him to slow down.

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This is a situation that non-boaters are often faced with in tournament situations.  Often times they will outfish the guy up front as he can't hit all the spots while moving fast.  You'll definately need to power fish, but you can still fish a soft plastic.  A speed worm or swim jig will cover water as quickly as a crank or spinnerbait and  many of the spots he misses can be fished with soft plastic frogs.

I had one non-boater cast forward of the bow just as I was into my back cast.  When I asked what he thought he was doing he replied that I was fishing to fast for him and that was the only way he could work his casts.  I told him just say something next time and continued at the same pace. When it was his turn to operate the TM he declined but asked if we could hit some areas where his slower presentations might prove productive.

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Put a heavier weight sinker or jig on. Cast at the likely areas and get your hop or two in before you reel in and hit the next spot. 

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Get a new partner, buy a boat , or sit down in protest while having a ice cold Sam Adams!

Of course I am being silly, but me and my dad just couldn't fish togeather, he was a live bait crappie fisherman, I am a LMB / SMB fisherman using artificial... It just wouldn't work, I have always had at least one boat and many times as many as 4.....

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I have been helping my father-in-law fix a few things on his boat and we have gone fishing a few times and he fishes A LOT faster than I like to.  I like to troll to a spot like a weedline with a ledge or a fallen tree and work it and then move on. He prefers to keep the trolling motor at half power putting the speed near 2mph and cast the crankbaits and spinnerbaits. this is far too fast to effectively work the worms, frogs, and craws that I like to fish.

 

Any suggestions would be helpful.

 

 

Get in the front of the boat.  I have a buddy who is similar, and I find that if I get in the front and cast into the area we're moving into you can get a quick presentation in each spot as you approach it, then retrieve quickly and cast again into the next proper aspect.  He can also use the boat's motion to the crank's advantage from the back as well so it would work better from both actions' perspective (or he can see how much that speed sucks in the back, either way problem mostly solved).  

 

Worth a shot.  Not too many guys want to give up the helm but I'd try.  Speed dating is tough but you can still land a nice honey that way.  

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Learn to fish a Carolina rig behind the boat or drag a bottom bouncing swimbait behind you as you pass the spot.

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Try a zoom ultravibe speed worm .it can be fished fast t rigged or on a jig

 

 

Rage Tail Cut-R T-rigged

 

 

What they said.  Plenty of times I ended up in this situation and a swimming worm (Zoom's UV Speedworm or Rage Cut-R) with a 1/4oz weight do the job.

 

Also try finesse swimbaits.  Like the strike king swimming shiner.

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Try swimming your soft plactics, there are several baits that don´t have to be worked at atrhritic snail pace to be effective, Mann´s Hardnose Worm, Zoom´s G Tail worm and Ringer, GYCB Swimming senko are some baits you can swim and will catch fish.

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i'm familiar with this situation quite well...when i 1st joined a club...boy was i in for an awakening...i was used to bank fishing and working a spot for a while before walking down the bank...i used as light a weight as possible, many times even weightless so as not to get hung up.  but i soon learned that that wasn't going to work very well when my boaters were "speed fishing"..  so i had to adapt...if i was to catch anything using plastics.

 

so..

i learned some new "favorites" as far as plastic presentations....in no order..

obviously heavier weights on texas rigs...Yamamoto Hula Grub, Zoom UV Speedcraw, Zoom Speedcraw, SK Rage Craw,  (after getting to the bottom..these can be "swam" with good results)

moving plastics.. 

like a Lake Fork Magic Shad on a Scrounger...

a swim senko, with a belly weight

swimming caffiene shad, with a belly weight

swim a grub

shakey head...enough weight to get it down...and then can be hopped/drug for a while behind the boat..

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Put a heavier weight sinker or jig on. Cast at the likely areas and get your hop or two in before you reel in and hit the next spot. 

^^ Yep. Otherwise you are forced to adapt to some type of swimming lure. I like pitching a tube from the back of the boat. They skip well and cast aerodynamically.

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A zoom lizard, zoom speed craw, GYCB kreature, GYCB hula grub, GYCB swimming senko, or a ribbon tail monster worm (ragetail anaconda).  Trying getting him to slow the boat down.  Also you might try to raise and lower rod slowly allowing the bait to nose down and up.  You can try different bullet weights to get to different trolling depths.

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I have a friend I occasionally fish with who only like to power fish. When we are in his boat, I just gave up trying to fish plastics and switched to power presentations like his. The good news is that I now have more options and have become a better speed fisherman. The days I rode around not being happy because he could not slow down are over. Adjusting to the way he runs the trolling motor made for better, more fun trips. Don't fight it. Adjust to his style.

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As the boat approaches a spot that you feel has potential, when he's not looking - toss out the anchor.

 

After you help him climb back in the boat, look him right in the eye, and with the straightest face you can manage ~

 

Say . . . . . . . . "What ?"  

 

:eyebrows:

 

A-Jay

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Put a heavier weight sinker or jig on. Cast at the likely areas and get your hop or two in before you reel in and hit the next spot.

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When he sees you catch some maybe he will be willing to change over. I have as others stated come across anglers who cannot slow down and there styles just dont match mine and cant fish with them on a regular basis. Being versatile is one of the things i like about bass fishing maybe talk with him about trying something different. Small doses say like start day out 2 hrs. let him throw that crank and if no fish suggest worming for 30min.-1hr then let him switch back to that crank for awhile ;-)

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