Best Low Profile Baitcaster For A Design Project

[Deleted account]

...fabricate a carbon fiber frame to replace the graphite one...,

 

Awesome. You should work for a Government contractor..

[jason41987]

Look for the old model Daiwa Exceler with magforce Z. Great little reel that's on sale for around $50 at some places.

newer ones dont have the magforce z?

[Tywithay]

newer ones dont have the magforce z?

No. Just standard magforce.

[jason41987]

Awesome. You should work for a Government contractor..

graphite and carbon are not exactly the same though, some use the terms interchangeable but from an engineering standpoint there are differences in the manufacturing techniques which result in different properties

 

ill  have the tools soon to CNC machine a new frame out of any alloy id like.. so im not too worried about starting out with something that had a graphite frame to base my own design on, but i hope to design a frame that can use the same side plates at least, using simple shapes and manufacturing techniques

[jason41987]

No. Just standard magforce.

so they went from one better braking system, to a lesser one?.. im guessing to cut costs to meet a certain profit margin?

[Tywithay]

so they went from one better braking system, to a lesser one?.. im guessing to cut costs to meet a certain profit margin?

Yeah, basically. The old model also had a free floating spool. The new one is extremely watered down.

[jason41987]

ill look for an older one, ive been watching a video reel of how the magforce z system works and its pretty much exactly what i had in mind though with the magnetic fields in opposite directions, i think i like daiwas idea better because its possible to have the inductor entirely outside of the magnetic field for zero braking near the end of the cast and its mechanism to move the inductor is very simple in design.. so yeah, ill get an older exceler then to use for my purposes

[Deleted account]

graphite and carbon are not exactly the same though, some use the terms interchangeable but from an engineering standpoint there are differences in the manufacturing techniques which result in different properties

 

ill  have the tools soon to CNC machine a new frame out of any alloy id like.. so im not too worried about starting out with something that had a graphite frame to base my own design on, but i hope to design a frame that can use the same side plates at least, using simple shapes and manufacturing techniques

 

Middletown Composites is where you want to send your resume...

[F14A-B]

Oh lots of folks like magnetics, Daiwa does it really well at least from Magforce Z to 3 D

I use shimano now, but used Daiwa for years and years...

[Smallmouth Hunter]

Yup cutting costs and trying to buff up the higher end models so that people will spend more..

[bass1980]

I only read the first few post so if this reel has been mentioned already then I guess add it to the list again. I think you should look for a beat up Daiwa T3 Ballistic. Right now it's going for $110 so a used beat up one should be significantly less. Why? Well we all know the T3 platform is a casting machine. The 3D braking system is outstanding. Palms well, and has tons of aftermarket parts even though you are fabbing stuff up too. Many people agree that an aluminum T3 would be great and without the hood. If you are fabbing up shells then a non Zion T3 would be nice and without the hood. You can interchange internal parts with the T3 1016 if you choose also. Well that's my suggestion.

[jason41987]

hmm.. sounds like a sneaky way as opposed to just making their higher end models better, they make their lower end models worse.. maybe thats why the guy who posted two up switched to shimano?.. i have some abu garcia stuff right now, ambassadeurs and just got away from spinning gear last year so i dont really have any brand allegiances at this point.. im kind of at the point where nothing impresses me all that much in term of the low profiles, i see many compromises made on materials, features

 

this is what inspires me to make my own, simplify some of the design for ease of maintenance, increased life of the reel, you know, features and quality that go beyond the realm of planned obsolescence, profit margins, etc

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

From an ease of maintenance standpoint I'm not sure Diawa is the way to go.

[bass1980]

Yeah I read the first post again and you are right. Something simple but built tough. Then IMO there's no question that a beat up used Shimano Citica E is the one!