Cgrinder Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 Yea it's called the curado...lol The Curado I costs $180. There is room for a $225 reel in the lineup. I don't think the Ci4+ has really taken off, especially with the Curado I around now. Quote
Dramer77 Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 The Curado I costs $180. There is room for a $225 reel in the lineup. I don't think the Ci4+ has really taken off, especially with the Curado I around now. The curado is a alum chronarch. I dunno what reel they would put at that price point... they really don't need it Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 12, 2014 Super User Posted July 12, 2014 Spoke with a good friend of mine tonight. He used to be the merchandising manager for Bass Pro, he still has a lot of connections in the industry. Apparently, the Crucial will be offered in split and full cork configurations. They have Fuji Alconite guides as well. The Clarus is getting a facelift as well, with IM8+ blanks and full cork handles to go with it. 1 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 12, 2014 Super User Posted July 12, 2014 Any idea what color the Clarus will be? I didn't even think to ask. Quote
John G Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 I didn't even think to ask. I'm looking for a cheap flippin rod. I hope it's black or a shade of red with a cork handle. Quote
dam0007 Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Spoke with a good friend of mine tonight. He used to be the merchandising manager for Bass Pro, he still has a lot of connections in the industry. Apparently, the Crucial will be offered in split and full cork configurations. They have Fuji Alconite guides as well. The Clarus is getting a facelift as well, with IM8+ blanks and full cork handles to go with it. Claris and crucial getting the updates, Cumara updated last year, do you think the compre is too? Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 12, 2014 Super User Posted July 12, 2014 Claris and crucial getting the updates, Cumara updated last year, do you think the compre is too? Not during ICast. Just the Terez, Adrena, Expride, Crucial, Clarus, a few saltwater spinning reels, and Calcutta Conquest; from what I was told. Quote
cbass12 Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 I'd like to see an upgrade in the compre, especially in the reel seat, and maybe a little more variety in length and action. Be nice if they offered some kind of shaky head rod in the compre like they do with the crucial. I'm a fan of the blank and the comfort of the reel seat, but I had two of them that had the reel seat come loose when the reel was tightened down. Quote
dam0007 Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Wasn't the game plan from them Citica/Sedona-Clarus. Curado/Sahara-compre. Chronarch/Stradic FJ-crucial. Core/Stradic Ci4-Cumara. I figured by how the colors were all similar as well. I remember Dave Mercer mentioning this. I may have the spinning reels mixed up. 1 Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted July 13, 2014 Posted July 13, 2014 I don't understand shimanos marketing.. With the curado I, it seemed like they forced its release too early and didn't have any reels to sell, especially lefty's. now they decide to update only 2 rods out of the whole series??? Sounds like they are forcing this one out early too. I guess we will have to wait and see if the crucial can redeem shimano in the rod department like the curado I did even though it was forced out too. Quote
BradGuenette Posted July 13, 2014 Posted July 13, 2014 I got the pleasure of being invited to the Shimano cottage in northern Quebec earlier this week and we got some time on the water with these new Crucials and they are a big step up from previous generations. They went back to cork both full&split grips as it seems that's what everyone wanted, the new custom reel seat is very comfortable to fish with and the carbon cross weaving really improves the rods taper and overall rigidity. I got away from Shimano/Loomis in the past couple of years when in my eyes they dropped the ball on a few items in they're rod/reel line up but with the new lineup they seem to have hit a home run and will have many angler back using they're products. It should also be noted they are stepping away from technique specific rods in the Crucial line up. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 It should also be noted they are stepping away from technique specific rods in the Crucial line up. I think that's the best news I've heard about these rods yet! Can't wait to get my hands on a few. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 14, 2014 Super User Posted July 14, 2014 If you take a sharpie and color over the technique on the old rods, they're just fishing rods. Doing away with that will improve sales, because some naive people seem to think you can't throw a senko on a spinnerbait rod. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted July 16, 2014 Global Moderator Posted July 16, 2014 For the guys who have, or know about them, what is the diffefence in this years Crucial and last years red Cumara?? Thanks Mike Quote
bootytrain Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 It looks like the crucial has cross weave graphite that seemed to only be used in shimano JDM sticks. Quote
EmersonFish Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 I've been on the fence about giving the Crucial a try for a long time. Coming out with models that have the full cork handle would have pretty much sealed the deal for me, but... they had to go and mess with the warranty and turn the rod green. To be fair, I've always thought Lifetime Warranties ("limited" or not) on fishing rods was crazy, but it was definitely a nice selling point. And the green might look pretty sharp in the sunlight, but how about with a Lew's reel on it? I guess I'm right back on the fence. Quote
BradGuenette Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 I've been on the fence about giving the Crucial a try for a long time. Coming out with models that have the full cork handle would have pretty much sealed the deal for me, but... they had to go and mess with the warranty and turn the rod green. To be fair, I've always thought Lifetime Warranties ("limited" or not) on fishing rods was crazy, but it was definitely a nice selling point. And the green might look pretty sharp in the sunlight, but how about with a Lew's reel on it? I guess I'm right back on the fence. The problem in there lies with people putting in warranty claims with rods that are 10+ years old. We had a old Clarus come in the other day that was 5+ years old and we had to honor the warranty. In all reality if a rod is going to break due to manufacturer defect it will happen the first few times the rods on the water. The main reason for proof of purchase to honor the warranty is to weed out the folks buying used rods off Craigs list ect. breaking then and then asking for a warranty claim. The green is hit or miss some will like it other won't, similar to the red Cumaras. I don't know how they will pair aesthetically with the Lews but I can say they do look great with a new Curado I 1 Quote
Hogsticker Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 All lews reels are black or silver. I don't see how that could look bad on a green stick. Quote
EmersonFish Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 The problem in there lies with people putting in warranty claims with rods that are 10+ years old. We had a old Clarus come in the other day that was 5+ years old and we had to honor the warranty. In all reality if a rod is going to break due to manufacturer defect it will happen the first few times the rods on the water. The main reason for proof of purchase to honor the warranty is to weed out the folks buying used rods off Craigs list ect. breaking then and then asking for a warranty claim. The green is hit or miss some will like it other won't, similar to the red Cumaras. I don't know how they will pair aesthetically with the Lews but I can say they do look great with a new Curado I Believe me, I'm not knocking Shimano for the warranty change. I imagine that policy has been abused for years. If I were selling rods, even if they were of the highest quality, I wouldn't be so generous. But, I know a lot of people bought Shimano rods because they were comforted by the warranty. I'll wait and see what the green looks like in person. I liked the black, but there are a lot of black rods out now. Maybe something different. Quote
John G Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 I'll bet a gold Conquest 100 would look great on the green 7' MH Crankbait Crucial! Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 I'll bet a gold Conquest 100 would look great on the green 7' MH Crankbait Crucial!Or on a 13 archangel! Quote
John G Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Or on a 13 archangel!Help me out please! What is a 13 archangel? ***? Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 18, 2014 Super User Posted July 18, 2014 Help me out please! What is a 13 archangel? ***?It's ***'s new high end rod. It won't be available for a while. It's top of the line in every aspect. Quote
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