Why Baitcasters Are Better Than Spinning Setups: Fatigue

[SirSnookalot]

yeah i have but i am pretty sure no ocean fish live in freshwater so your argument is irrelevant.  

 

I get the hand being sore piece but to be physically fatigued from fishing is funny to me....sure being out in the heat and on your feet al lady can bother some people but the actual act of fishing has bothered me one time and that was the first time i went out and used my 7wt fly rod with a full sinking line, that was a tiring day but more because of bad technique that was fixed for the next day's outing.

The argument is irrelevant.  First off one needs to qualify what kind of ocean fishing.  Fishing for many inshore species the gear being used isn't heavy, no more tiring than bass gear, not every fish is going to be a 30 minute fight, that's rare.  I don't think day in and day out it's any more tiring than bass fishing, now and then you will get that fish that wacks you out.  Offshore is total different, even catching 3-4# yellowtail from 100' with 2-4 oz of lead is tiring, even more so with 50 or 100#+ species.  Don't know if anyone has experienced this, I have many times, is having a fish on the line where you can't even turn the crank of the reel, that is until you tire the fish out. That's when you learn how to pull up and reel down, tired after an hour of that, HAHA ........you bet.

 

Whether it's spinning or b/c people get tired from using muscles they aren't used to using.  Do you think a pro fisherman gets tired, or a pro golfer hitting hundreds of balls a day both before and after a competitive round, It's their job and they make sure they are in shape.  Getting tired from drop shotting is a result of having your fishing muscles not in condition, do it every day and you won't get tired.  To those that have physical handicaps, all you can do is just make the best of it, it isn't your livelyhood.  I get no more tired fishing inshore as I do for bass when catching the average fish, as I do it everyday.

[Josh Smith]

I prefer casting for medium heavy and heavy.

For medium, I am trying to decide if I like casting. I am not used to the reel (Black Max 2). I'll let you all know next thread on this subject.

For ultralight, I like a very small spinning setup that will literally cast flies a few feet.

For medium light, I suspect I would prefer spinning, but I have no medium light rig.

I have an urge to go down to the gun forum and start a 9mm vs .45acp discussion for some odd reason...

Josh

Sent from the Ancient Blackberry

[K_Mac]

I am will soon be 58 and in better shape than I've been in years. I am capable of fishing far longer today than I could think about even last year. Conditioning makes a huge difference. With that said, fatigue is a real issue when it comes to fishing IMO. Maybe for an hour or two here and there it doesn't matter much, or for you young guys that are 10' tall and bullet proof it is not an issue, but put a couple of long days together and for most of us it is.

 

Most of us don't give a rip whether you use baitcast or spinning. use what you like. Better, lighter gear will make either one more enjoyable in my not so humble opinion.

[K_Mac]

I have an urge to go down to the gun forum and start a 9mm vs .45acp discussion for some odd reason...

Josh

 

 

That is funny! Anyone who has ever spent a couple of minutes on a gun forum knows how divisive this is. What a great analogy!

[hatrix]

I don't know why you people are poking fun at getting fatigued. That is a real issue and depending on what your doing or how hard your are fishing really can wear on you. Throw big swimbaits all day long and tell me you don't notice it wearing on you. Or spend a whole day throwing spooks and try pretend like you didn't develop a mean case of carpaltunel over night from snapping your wrist 5000x in one day.

The line and rod use with a given bait will also wear on you. Throw some chatterbaits or a crank with high vibration on braid all day and you will notice it. Having a combo that is not properly balanced will take a tole on you while you might not even notice it. Then go fish a perfectly balanced setup and everything feels so much easier and more fluid.

[F14A-B]

You guys stop getting rattled over a couple remarks by a couple of folks dismissing fatigue or plainly said being tired.... It's real,we all know it is.. No big deal... Have to work around things like this. It is being Human that's all fish the best you can.

[hatrix]

You guys stop getting rattled over a couple remarks by a couple of folks dismissing fatigue or plainly said being tired.... It's real,we all know it is.. No big deal... Have to work around things like this. It is being Human that's all fish the best you can.

There is just no need to laugh at someone and make it seem like they are weak or some inferior kind of person for a statement they made. That is all.

[Long Mike]

Looks like Irene is about to step in here.

[kickerfish1]

Looks like Irene is about to step in here.

I figured it wouldn't be long until she grew tired and in need of her beauty rest!

[SirSnookalot]

Looks like Irene is about to step in here.

Why?  Only 34 responses from a membership of 40,000+, another point of view or opinion is possible, if not this thread will die on it's own.

Another reason I prefer spinning over b/c is with a larger fish on the line a conventional real can twist in my hands. With spinning this doesn't happen for me, the setup is more comfortable.  With more comfort comes less fatigue IMO.  Some may an opposing opinion, then a b/c should be their choice.

[Tywithay]

Why?  Only 34 responses from a membership of 40,000+, another point of view or opinion is possible, if not this thread will die on it's own.

Another reason I prefer spinning over b/c is with a larger fish on the line a conventional real can twist in my hands. With spinning this doesn't happen for me, the setup is more comfortable.  With more comfort comes less fatigue IMO.  Some may an opposing opinion, then a b/c should be their choice.

Spiral wrapped rods alleviate this issue. I agree though, I don't find any loss of power with a spinning reel. The key is finding spinning reels with a low gear ratio, like 4.8:1. The higher speed spinners do have a little less nuts when it comes to dragging heavy fish or baits.

[Raul]

Looks like Irene is about to step in here.

 

Hey ! in before Irene comes !

 

And ( supposedly you should never begin a sentence with "and" ) I´m still not conviced with the logic of the argument.  

[F14A-B]

I think most would agree with Snookalot, my hooksets are more natural and fluid with spinning than baitcasting, although I don't notice that torque on moving baits like I do say, pitching or flipping, as it pertains to baitcasters used in bass fishing, of course lots of folks use the same gear inshore, the heaviest bass/ whatever reels that I use are a shimano 300 and cte200gt's at 10.2 oz apiece wow, lotta complaints about the weight from folks, but you don't hear those complaints nearly as loud with a spinning reel at those weights, I use the baitcaster 75 % of the time, but I sure love spinning too.

[SirSnookalot]

I think most would agree with Snookalot, my hooksets are more natural and fluid with spinning than baitcasting, although I don't notice that torque on moving baits like I do say, pitching or flipping, as it pertains to baitcasters used in bass fishing, of course lots of folks use the same gear inshore, the heaviest bass/ whatever reels that I use are a shimano 300 and cte200te's at 10.2 oz apiece wow, lotta complaints about the weight from folks, but you don't hear those complaints nearly as loud with a spinning reel at those weights, I use the baitcaster 75 % of the time, but I sure love spinning too.

For me the weight of a spinning reel is less important, but I think it has to do with what the technique is.

One of my favs is 7'6 rod mh with 14oz spinning reel, just feels great and I know people using a 20 oz reel on the same rod.  But I would kill myself bass fishing with it, just isn't conducive for jigging or bottom baits.  It's a very comfortable set up for long flowing casts into open water, don't have a fatigue issue with it.  With the target species that I use this kind of a set up I seldom have to make a hookset, the fish are hitting a moving target with some speed, they hook themselves.

[tomustang]

For me it's the opposite. Spinning setups tend to hang in the hand which feel more comfortable where baitcasters are held up and many want to tip to the handle side. Now based off both being balanced and weighing the same, for more comfort (but its not by much) I would choose spinning.

[0119]

Fighting a fish with a baitcaster should never get to the point that the rod/reel torque over.  Proper fish fighting must be done strictly with the rod, reeling in is only a slack line, torquing should never happen.  To think a spinning reel/rod is less capable is just as stupid, since that same proper fish fighting technique demands fighting the fish with the rod and reeling only to gather slack line as you go downward in the pump.  This whole constant argument is just uneducated anglers trying to imitate "pros" whose water ski bass along the surface without a fight using broomsticks and rope for line. Thats not fishing, its competing for $ in a waterbourne arena.  No one seems to know proper fishing technique anymore.

[F14A-B]

The torque I was referring to was at a flipping pitch hard set,, that's when I feel some torque/ slight rollover... Nothing to do with fighting fish at least not bass fish. When I fish for Ohio river cats that we catch many over a hundred pounds, it's just like salt work reel down/ pull/ reel down pull but you don't usually do that with bass on baitcaster. Lite line spinning, deeper water yea, just not typical bass fishing

[tomustang]

I wouldn't say everything is better. Look at pitching,  with a caster motion is much more fluid, on a spinner it seems like a lanky process

[Jeff H]

I agree with RW.  I don't think one is better than the other for me, they both have their place.

[jason41987]

i came to this thread kind of late, but i started using baitcasters last year, went back to a spinning reel for a moment this year just to see if it would cast the light, weightless stuff better.. it did a little better, but not much.. but what i learned is this, after half an hour of casting and reeling on, my right hand started hurting because the way the spinning reels dangle below, it changes the balance of the rod/reel and makes it feel front heavy.. if i try to change the position of my hand my knuckles get smashed by the bail

 

furthermore, it didnt really throw stuff much further, sure i could cast weightless crappie lures, but still couldnt cast these out that far at all, what i gained in not having to spin a spool i lost in the line flapping around and smacking the eyes of the rod.. so there wasnt much of a gain, it was much less comfortable to use.. and get this, due to line twist i actually had to deal with birds nests MORE than i did with the baitcaster

 

so my opinion now is to not waste my time with spinning gear ever again, id rather use a cheap spincast gear for light stuff