Robert Riley Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Hey guys, First off, is it Villain or Villian. It's Villian on purefishing, but that's not a word... Anyway, im in the market for a 7' medium with a fast action, for lighter jigs and spinnerbaits. Right now I'm comparing it to a Okuma C3-40x($140) and Abu Villain($80). Im also looking at the Lews Tournament SL($80), as I have a MH and love it. here are links if they help: http://www.***.com/Okuma_Concept_C3-40x_Casting_Rods/descpage-0CC.html http://www.***.com/Lews_Tournament_SL_HM60_Micro_Guide_Casting_Rods/descpage-LSLC.html Thanks! Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 7, 2014 Super User Posted July 7, 2014 Is there a question there somewhere....other than the correct spelling? I can tell you this much. I have 2 Villain rods, one spinning, one casting. The 7'6" MHF casting rod is rated for 3/8 to 1-1/4 oz. I won't throw less than 1/2 oz. and prefer heavier than that. Quote
21farms Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 on the rods themselves, it is correctly spelled as 'villain'. i'm not sure how i feel about them. i have the 6'9" ML/MF which i like but i had the 7'1" MH/F which i did not. no direct experience with either the okumas and the lew's tournament SLs. i played with the C3s at the store and didn't notice anything special about them. i have owned three of the team lew's speed sticks and was quite pleasantly surprised by the component quality, workmanship, weight and handling...whether that carries over to the tournament SLs, i dunno. have you considered the kistler pro series (*** exclusive)? Quote
Arv Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 I had a villain but sold it a while back. Not a bad rod. 80 seems like a good deal for it. If you are willing to spend around 140ish I'd look else where for a rod. Lots of good options in that 100-150 range. Quote
Robert Riley Posted July 7, 2014 Author Posted July 7, 2014 I have not looked at the kistler rods. Although, I just found a Croix Rage for $99 bucks, a bit more money, but it seems like just what I need Quote
Robert Riley Posted July 8, 2014 Author Posted July 8, 2014 I had a villain but sold it a while back. Not a bad rod. 80 seems like a good deal for it. If you are willing to spend around 140ish I'd look else where for a rod. Lots of good options in that 100-150 range. The villain markets for like 150 doesn't it? So I'm looking at the $150 dollar rod you are telling me I should look for already lol. Quote
Arv Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 The villain markets for like 150 doesn't it? So I'm looking at the $150 dollar rod you are telling me I should look for already lol.I'm very confused as to why you have ($80) next to Abu villain then...And no, I'd look at other rods, but you can spend your money however you like Quote
Robert Riley Posted July 8, 2014 Author Posted July 8, 2014 I have a discount with abu garcia, so i get a hefty chunk off. Quote
Arv Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 I have a discount with abu garcia, so i get a hefty chunk off.Hence why I said that 80 sounds like a good deal to me for the villain. But if you are willing to spend 150ish, I would look for another rod. If you're looking to spend 80, then go for the villain. My point is I would spend more money on another rod even with the discount on the villain, but that's just my 2 cents. Quote
Robert Riley Posted July 8, 2014 Author Posted July 8, 2014 Hence why I said that 80 sounds like a good deal to me for the villain. But if you are willing to spend 150ish, I would look for another rod. If you're looking to spend 80, then go for the villain. My point is I would spend more money on another rod even with the discount on the villain, but that's just my 2 cents. And that's why I posted here! Thanks. I also found a Croix rage in M-F for only $99, so it's a bit more money for im hoping a lot more rod. Any experience with this rod? Quote
Arv Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 And that's why I posted here! Thanks. I also found a Croix rage in M-F for only $99, so it's a bit more money for im hoping a lot more rod. Any experience with this rod? Other than holding it in store, no. If you like the handles and guides I would say to go for it. I've had Avids in the past and really like the SCIII blank. If you can stick your reel on it I would try and do that. I know there are others on this forum that do have experience with the rod so if that's where you're looking starting another thread might be a good idea to get better feedback. Quote
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