pk Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 It had been awhile since I purchased a new reel until a few weeks ago when I picked up a Chronarch Ci4 6.4 gear ration at BPS. My previous reels date back to Curado 200e and Revo Premier Gen 2 models. So that's like 2 or 3 years of using those(pretty good for me). Now when I bought the Chronarch the kid at BPS working the reel desk talked me out of the Core, "its out dated next to the Ci4." I know, you shouldn't listen to the kid sat BPS, but heck I thought if this guy is talking down a more expensive reel infavor of something cheaper why should I argue? So two weeks later after reading through forum after forum post and trying to figure out specs(I'll admit I'm a bit lost). I still want a Core 50mg7...the 100 is tempting as well. Is anyone else still buying these? Am I wrong to disagree with the kid at BPS and pick a couple of these up? Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 I like the 50, just because of the size. Otherwise, I prefer the CI4+ over the Core; though I may be in the minority. Quote
DelcoSol Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 I just traded my Ci4 for a Core. No regrets here. The 50 series is so comfortable. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 The Core 50mg is my favorite reel. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 I have 101 MG and love it. It casts forever. I can almost empty the spool with 12lb line. One of the best things is that it hardly ever backlashes on me. I cast a weightless senko with one break on a country mile. The only down side, in order improve weight on this model shimano reduced the bearing count. The reel still is smooth but at the price it could be smother. This is not to say it is not a great reel, it is my favorite. One thing gear does for me, is it increases my fishing fun and the core paired with a g loomis 803c does it perfectly. I am hoping there is a Core 51 mg in my future.... Quote
thehooligan Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Another fan here that prefers the core over the ci4. Its so light and palms so well... Quote
Super User Raul Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 The Core is a Chronarch, Shimano changed the names to differentiate their magnesium versions from the regular ones, let´s also remember that the Ci4 is composite, I have nothing against composite reels other than they are composite. Having to choose between a Core and a composite Chronarch I would chose the Core without thinking too much. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 The core 50mg7 and 100mg7 are great reels. They seem to be more popular than the 6:2.1 core. I haven't fished the 100mg7 but among the guys I know that use them say they fish like a lighter weight Chronarch D7. I have used the 50mg7 for 2 years. There isn't anything I dislike about the reel. The cast control cap adjustment is better than the Chronarch 50e and Curado 50e. I feel the reel is plenty smooth and casts well for commonly used bass lures. Still one of the lightest reels on the market today given its age. Sure Shimano is revamping their breaking system, but my super tuned core casts as well as I need it to. I purchased mine for around $280 NIB. I would not hesitate to buy another for fishing weightless plastics, jigs, texas rigs, and other bottom contact apps. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 Fished both today. 50mg7 is a great reel for sure the size and weight paired with a very light rod is awesome in hand. If the size and weight are important to you then yes the 50 size would be the way to go. If smoothness and great casting (better than the core50 IMU) along with easier brake adjustment and the extra ease of x-ship then stay with CI4. Last week the 50MG7 was $270 but sold out it pops up about couple days a month at the reduced price. If you wait and get the deal throw some abec7 bearings in it and it shines. Right now you can get the Core100 or Chro CI4 for $220 at Gander- code JULY4. core http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Shimano-Core-Baitcast-Reel-100MG&i=410604 CI4 http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Shimano-Chronarch-CI4-Low-Profile-Baitcasting-Reel-CH150CI4HG&i=757812 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 Shimano Core is my favorite casting reel. Roger Quote
bass1980 Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Having both...this is a tough one. I like that the Ci4+ has X ship and their new SVS infinity braking system with the external adjustment. However the core is more refined to me. It just does what a great reel should do without getting into all these new technology. My next reel will be a Metanium. From what my friends tell me it's smoother than a Core and has all the new goodies. It's a good time to be buying Shimano reels. They have brought out great products after the E and G series debacle. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 It's a good time to be buying Shimano reels. They have brought out great products after the E and G series debacle. Huh? I don't know anyone that is/ was dissatisfied with the E Series. 4 Quote
Super User Raul Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 I have a Citica G, excuse me but is an excellent reel, much more superior to the venerable B series Curado and with characteristics you only found in the Chronarch series and those didn´t include HEG. The problem was that Shimano raised the bar with the D and E series and the G series wasn´t what everybody assumed it would be. Graphite sideplates ? the B series had graphite sideplates Graphite drag star ? the B series had graphite drag star The B series didn´t have HEG The B series weighted 8.6 oz The B series didn´t have Super Free system until several years into production when the SF version was made. Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Huh? I don't know anyone that is/ was dissatisfied with the E Series. I think he is referring to the re-release of the 50/200 E in the chronarch line. 1 Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 Yea I don't think folks had issues with the Curado E.... Maybe the change of name and paint maybe was railed on pretty good... Still great reels whatever they call them. 1 Quote
bass1980 Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 Huh? I don't know anyone that is/ was dissatisfied with the E Series. What I meant is they painted the Curado E white and names it the Chronarch and cheapened the Curado into the G. We all know th G series is watered down and the Chronarch E is basically a $200 Curado E. That's what I meant. I love the E series though. I won't sell my 50 series. Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 Never sell a 50/51. You will regret it. 4 Quote
pk Posted July 7, 2014 Author Posted July 7, 2014 Thanks for all the input. I grabbed a core 50 Mg7 and a Alderbaran BFS from Japan last week. They both got here these week. The Alderbaran is a 2013 model and the Core certainly doesn't look dated next to it. Sadly I can't get out on the water until Thursday. Quote
ec1 Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 I think I'm in the minority here, but I absolutely love the new chronarch's over the the core. The casting of the new chronarch gives such a nice whir, that it almost sounds like a DC reel, the lines of the reel are much sleeker, and not so rounded. Casting wise, the core is great, but I think the Chronarch is even better with the new braking system. I know I don't own the 50/51 that everyone loves.. am I missing something because I have the 100MGFV? Quote
pk Posted July 7, 2014 Author Posted July 7, 2014 I own a Ci4 Chronarch. The Core 50 MG7 feels completely different in hand but that's about all I can tell you. I can't wait to fish them side by side, but even after that if I did a review I'd probably do both reels and injustice. Quote
bootytrain Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 The current 50 size lp is already an all time great imo. The 100 size is considered an all time great in Japan. 1 Quote
pk Posted July 7, 2014 Author Posted July 7, 2014 The current 50 size lp is already an all time great imo. The 100 size is considered an all time great in Japan. Which is why I'd be hesitant to pit it against the new Chronarch Ci4. The Ci4 just doesn't have the years of proven quality. It's probably a fantastic reel and I love mine, but the core has what 5 years on it? Quote
bootytrain Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Which is why I'd be hesitant to pit it against the new Chronarch Ci4. The Ci4 just doesn't have the years of proven quality. It's probably a fantastic reel and I love mine, but the core has what 5 years on it? Why do you feel the need to pit them against each other? Just own them all and be happy lol. I would hope that the newer reel with the latest technology from a manufacturer would perform better than the design its replacing. Quote
pk Posted July 7, 2014 Author Posted July 7, 2014 Why do you feel the need to pit them against each other? Just own them all and be happy lol. I would hope that the newer reel with the latest technology from a manufacturer would perform better than the design its replacing. I'm happy as all heck! Is the Ci4 Chronarch an actual official replacement for the Core 50 MG7? Quote
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