Super User tcbass Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 Usually I fish shallow, mostly along the shoreline. The depth of the water ranges from 1' foot to 5' feet. Traditionally I use Ragetail Toads on the open expanses between docks and Senko's under the docks. I have expanded my repertoire this year to jigs and more topwaters, mostly a KVD Sexy Dawg which has been pretty successful. I've also used spinnerbaits in the past. I've never really had success with any hollow body frog and would like to get better with them this year since I own a ton now. Well, this year has been difficult because the grass that normally blankets the bottom of the lake between the docks hasn't grown in yet. Even though most of it is in the 1'-2' foot range, when the grass is in, many bass hide in the grass, even in the hottest, sunniest days and will smash Ragetail Toads. So it's just really been the sand bottom the whole year. Well, today I noticed the grass appeared to have grown in overnight. Today I made a cast into it and let my Ragetail Toad soak for about 6 seconds. I then started reeling it in and had a nice 2lbs bass on it. I then caught a 1.5lbs bass with a Senko under a dock, and finally a bigger 2.5lbs bass while surface retrieving the Ragetail Toad. I lost two on the Ragetail Toad during the sink. So, overall a pretty slow day. And not one bite on my KVD Swim Jig or Scatter Rap. I tried the KVD Sexy Dawg here too, but it kept getting caught up with grass. I've been using a KVD swim jig on my last 5 outings and have caught fish every time on it, even out-fished my friend using Senkos yesterday. However, today, not even a bite. You can see that the grass is mostly underneath the surface of the water and some of it just breaks the surface. So, what kind of grass is this? And how would you fish it? Quote
Djman72 Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 I would throw a fluke through that in a heart beat. Also a simple weightless soft plastic (zoom trick worm, creature bait, etc) would be a go to for me. Anything that can be worked through that thick stuff. Quote
Super User tcbass Posted July 4, 2014 Author Super User Posted July 4, 2014 I would throw a fluke through that in a heart beat. Also a simple weightless soft plastic (zoom trick worm, creature bait, etc) would be a go to for me. Anything that can be worked through that thick stuff. How do you mean weightless, like a weightless T-Rig? Quote
edfitzvb Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Buzzbaits, Jitterbugs, hollow body frogs. Jigs. Johnson's Silver Minnow with a trailer. All should be relatively weedless and have a history of catching fish. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 Hollow belly soft swim bait like a yum money minnow works for me in those types of conditions. 1 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 That's good grass for a spinnerbait imo 1 Quote
Super User tcbass Posted July 4, 2014 Author Super User Posted July 4, 2014 Hollow belly soft swim bait like a yum money minnow works for me in those types of conditions. How similar is that to the Zoom Fluke? Would you do weighted or unweighted? Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 A weightless Fluke would be a good choice. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 How similar is that to the Zoom Fluke? Would you do weighted or unweighted? Completely different bait. Zoom dos make a paddle tail fluke which is somewhat similar but it is not a twitch bait, it has a boot tail that provides a lot of vibration. I rig mine on a weighted screwlock hook. The places i fish that are similar i usually try and fish it at a speed that i can feel the bait ticking the tops of the grass or sometimes i just run it a little deeper, really it depends on what the fish are telling you on that particular day. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 Fluke and a swim jig would be my first choices most likely. Quote
Basspro87 Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 This year I used kvd perfect plastic rodents in honey candy and caught a bunch of fish Quote
papajoe222 Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 The weeds look like a mix of some type of cabbage and maybe sand grass. I'm guessing this is a natural lake somewhere north. Wherever it is, a hollow body frog or Johnson spoon with a 4in. ribbontail should also be productive. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 Fat Ika, Keitech Salty Core Tube Quote
SGT Rico Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 That spot has super spook written all over it! Quote
Super User Catt Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 Most anglers like to fish over the grass...I like fishing through it! That's flippin, pitching, & punchin water Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/11664-warning-you-might-get-your-arm-broke/ Quote
Super User RoLo Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 So, what kind of grass is this? The botanical name is "Potamogeton", the common name is 'pondweed'. In the northern states and Canada the local moniker for pondweed is 'cabbage', but in the southern states and Florida it's called 'peppergrass'. This plant is a good example why biologists only use scientific names. Roger Quote
Super User bigbill Posted July 6, 2014 Super User Posted July 6, 2014 In the beginning in the springtime I was a pro at catching bass. Then as the grass, the submerged weeds and surface weeds took over it ruined my success. I was about to hit the panic button then I did a search for weedless lures. I have one tackle box marked weedless lures. Topwater Mister twister top prop. Shallow floating cranks over submerged weeds stop and get jiggy with over the open holes in the weed pockets. Spinnerbaits. Inline spinners Spooks and poppers. Mepps timber doodle. Drop it in the open weed pockets. Snag less Sally Quote
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