War Eagle 44 Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 I would stay away from Spider Wire braid, horrible line I 100% disagree with this statement. I'm running Spiderwire braids on 3 different reels and I've not experienced a single problem yet. I'm using a different braid on each reel, all in 50# test. One is spooled with Stealth, one with Invisibraid, and the third with Ultracast Ultimate braid. All three have been fine, no breakoffs or premature fraying, no knot slip, no mysterious casting issues, they have performed just as well as most of the other brands I've fished. My all time favorite brand is Power Pro (original and S8S) with P-Line Spectrex being a very close second. I've tried lots of different braids From SunLine to Sufix and plenty in between and I can't find anything wrong with Spiderwire. Especially the Invisi and Ultimate. Fresh spool of 50# Ultimate ready to go. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted July 4, 2014 Super User Posted July 4, 2014 What rod and reel do you use? Your problem is damaged guides, you said the tip has grooves!!! Hairline cracks will fray braid and you need to check each guide with a cotton Q-tip, if the cotton snags or you see a crack/groove replace the guide. Your spinning reel bail roller could also have damage, check it! The line isn't your problem! Tom Quote
Super User tcbass Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 +1 for Power Pro. I have the original Power Pro on my first baitcaster, a Plueger Patriach that I bought 6 years ago. It gets heavy, yearly use and I've never had a problem or a line break. I am going to try the Power Pro Super Slick 8 for my two new spinning reels this week. Quote
bassin' 4 life Posted July 5, 2014 Author Posted July 5, 2014 I think that instead of replacing the tip I will get a new rod because this one is just a $20 cheepy from the grocery store. I have the Cabala's pro guide pg2000 spinning reel, it's a good reel, I like it. 1 Quote
Super User tcbass Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 I think that instead of replacing the tip I will get a new rod because this one is just a $20 cheepy from the grocery store. I have the Cabala's pro guide pg2000 spinning reel, it's a good reel, I like it. Probably the best thing you can do. And then get good line. Quote
BadBassWV Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 What is it that Makes the Suffix 832 the best braid Period ?? Quote
Hogsticker Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I've always been pleased with with Sufix Performance Braid. Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Sufix 832 is by far the best I've used.. 1 Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Suffix 832 is the best braid. Period.How can you say that unless you've used all the braids in the world?? Careful with the superlative words... 1 Quote
Capt.Bob Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I have not used the Diawa braid, but have most others 832 is the best I have found, and is the roundest line available, this line is the smoothest Braid running through the guides of your rod that is made today. It noisy when you have a load on it, but I kind of like the whine. The best thing about 832 Sufix is it's abrasion resistance, it is better than a lot of mono lines and far better than any other Braid. I used Fireline for years with it's flat shape and drag through the guides because of the ability to hold up on rocks and timber without abrasion problems. For me this is very important as gravel rocks and boulders are what I fish most times. I have a few places that slate and sharp rock is common, both these lines are the only synthetics I have found to take this kind of fishing without fraying and cutting frequently. This is real world proof, but there are more than one test you can find on line and unless these two lines aren't used, they always are the top lines when tested. Fireline Braid and Power Pro I would never again waste my money on and would never recamend it after using so many others, and in abrasion test never fair well, but they are appropriately priced as they are among the cheapest name brands you can find. Your problem is going to plague you with any braid, guides have to be good, and today most any rod from any reputable maker will have guides that will hold up to any braid, but dime store rods are not going to make many happy, for any purpose. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 i've used a boatload of different braids since the early 1990s and the best ones i've found are Berkley trilene professional grade, suffix 832 and powerpro super slick 8.sufix 832 gets it on abrasion resistance but berkley professional grade is quieter imho. you would do well with any of these. Quote
LMB KING Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 How can you say that unless you've used all the braids in the world?? Careful with the superlative words... Are you assuming i haven't tried them all? Quote
Capt.Bob Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Are you assuming i haven't tried them all? I am almost certain he would never assume there is anything you haven't tried, most of us would never think that,,,that have read your post,,, after all period says it all,,,,, Thanks for the assurance, 1 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted July 5, 2014 Super User Posted July 5, 2014 Power pro S8S is the best braid. Period. Quote
BadBassWV Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 Are you assuming i haven't tried them all? I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you haven't used them all. Now what is it with Suffix 832 that makes it the best period?? Quote
Arv Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 I've liked regular power pro, super slick and suffix 832 the most so far. Quote
Code54 Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 I just spooled my spinning reel with Cabelas version of Power pro and tried it out. Cast like a dream, no knots, no loops, smooth long casts and the knots held tight. Really liked it and am going to put it on some other reels shortly. Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted July 6, 2014 Super User Posted July 6, 2014 It appears to me that the question that should be asked is what is the worst braid. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 6, 2014 Super User Posted July 6, 2014 Give TUF-LINE a try http://www.tuf-line.com/ Quote
Kevin22 Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 Oh my, I forgot about Tuf-Line! I got on a promo they had, free 150 yard spool for the price of shipping (like $7). That stuff was by far the worst braid I have ever used. Stiff as wire, roughest braid I have ever used, loudest braid I have ever used, very poor sensitivity as compared to other braids, and broke very easily for being 50# compared to other braids. I should also say that it faded to white in about 20 casts (gave me nice moss green colored guides though). That stuff was TERRIBLE! Quote
Super User tcbass Posted July 6, 2014 Super User Posted July 6, 2014 I just spooled my spinning reel with Cabelas version of Power pro and tried it out. Cast like a dream, no knots, no loops, smooth long casts and the knots held tight. Really liked it and am going to put it on some other reels shortly. Is it Power Pro? One of the Cabelas employees was showing me the Cabelas Daiwa reel and said same reel as this but we put the Cabelas name on it and it's $50 cheaper. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted July 6, 2014 Super User Posted July 6, 2014 It appears to me that the question that should be asked is what is the worst braid. Worst Ive used strength wise Kanzen 15#. Worst Ive used noise wise Sufix Performance 20# Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted July 6, 2014 Super User Posted July 6, 2014 i've used a boatload of different braids since the early 1990s and the best ones i've found are Berkley trilene professional grade, suffix 832 and powerpro super slick 8.sufix 832 gets it on abrasion resistance but berkley professional grade is quieter imho. you would do well with any of these. Just scored some at Gander on sale plus 25% off right around $11.20 will see how it works out. PPS8S is the quietest Ive use so far. To me quieter equates to smoother. Quote
Code54 Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Is it Power Pro? One of the Cabelas employees was showing me the Cabelas Daiwa reel and said same reel as this but we put the Cabelas name on it and it's $50 cheaper. Im not sure if it is exactly the same or not. The employee I was talking with said he used it a lot and never had any issues so I figured I would give it a shot seeing it was a few dollars cheaper. I am really impressed how easy it is to cast and the fact I had no issues with it coming on or off the spool. I JUST ordered some 8 pound power pro for my wife's reel so I will have to look at the two closely when it comes in. Would have bought more of the Cabelas line but was not near the store and the shipping made it more than the Power pro in this case. Quote
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