Glass Rods?

[ABW]

Despite having less sensitivity over graphite rods, are they more durable over the long run?

 

Also, I was looking at 2 rods for lipless crankbaits and some topwater poppers. Powell Diesel 723CEF and the 705CB model. Which would be best? I usually fish grass with lipless cranks.

 

723CEF is a 7'2" MH XF graphite rod.

 

705CB is a 7' MH Mod-fast glass rod.

 

 

Was thinking about purchasing the 723CEF for its versatility, but it has an XF tip which isn't ideal for treble hooked lures. Any thoughts?

[Mr. BattleArmor]

in my opinion if you are looking to add a rod for a specific purpose, why does it also need to be versatile? pick the rod that suits your purpose better, and you will be happier in the long run. especially when you catch fish!

[ABW]

in my opinion if you are looking to add a rod for a specific purpose, why does it also need to be versatile? pick the rod that suits your purpose better, and you will be happier in the long run. especially when you catch fish!

 

Only have 1 combo as of now, plus I'm just a teenager whose parents don't want me to spend a lot on several combos lol.

[Mr. BattleArmor]

Only have 1 combo as of now, plus I'm just a teenager whose parents don't want me to spend a lot on several combos lol.

Understandable, well if it's from those two I'd still get the second option, you are right about the XF action. 

[ABW]

Understandable, well if it's from those two I'd still get the second option, you are right about the XF action. 

 

Alright thank you. I think I'll go with the glass rod. Do you know how durable fiberglass rods are compared to graphite?

[timsford]

Depends on the rod but are more durable in my experience. What is the other combo you have?

[ABW]

Depends on the rod but are more durable in my experience. What is the other combo you have?

 

Powell Max 683 with a regular 100 dollar speed spool. Use it for texas rigs, light jigs

[Missourifishin]

I got a glass rod for crankbaits and I really like it. I'll use it for any lure with treble hooks, so I guess I would say that it is pretty versatile.

[timsford]

Depends on what you are wanting to use the rod for. Since you akready know how to use baitcast you could use a glass rod and another speed spool for cranks and other treble hooked lures. Or get a spinning rod and reel snd use for finesse baits that you would have a hard time throwing with baitcast. Or you could get a mh or h rod and another baitcast to throw heavy lures. It all depends on cover and what lures you want to fish. If i was in your situation id go with the spinning rod but if you are comfortable s

with baitcast reels and dont want to finesse fish id get a glass or composite rod for reaction baits or a heavier action graphite rod for single hook lures like t rigs or jigs and uae the combo you already have for reactio baits

[robster80]

i have the diesel 705 glass. awesome rod for shallow to mid divers.

[ABW]

i have the diesel 705 glass. awesome rod for shallow to mid divers.

Do you like it for traps too?

[robster80]

havent thrown those on it yet. im sure itll handle those fine tho. its a great rod

[Fish Murderer 71]

Glass can get heavy after a while, There are composites out there that are pretty good.  I have a skeet reese S-Glass crankin stick that works like a dream for the 6xd's  and I also have two of the H2O Ethos micro guide composites for jerks and cranks (square bill and mid ranges), no complaints there.  I just picked up a All-star Big crank rod for the DD30's and DT20's .  All of them run in the 90 dollar range. and all work well for their functions.  Good Fishing to ya with which ever you choose.

[Smallmouth Hunter]

Wait for the tatula glass rods.. They are going to be SWEET rods!!

[gulfcaptain]

Glass are less sensitive thus causing us to react a bit slower and have a softer "feel" not as stiff as a graphite.  This is why they work well with cranks and spinnerbaits.  I wouldn't go that way for a texas rigged worm.  I would go with a softer graphite rod (IM-6) if you're looking for something to do both with and have a fast action to it opposed to an XF.  And glass is heavier, but can last longer as they aren't as prone to breaking like graphite if you happen to hit them on something which can cause weak spots in graphite.

[frogflogger]

fiberglass gets a little softer action over time but I have some old Fenwicks I still love for spooks and such.

[speed craw]

Surprised no has mentioned composite glass rods . My 705 cb glass weighs right about the same as a normal graphite rod . Check out tackle tour for the reviews and weight etc. As far as sensitivity I feel a lot more sensitivity . Just my opinion mind you , but do your research for a good composite rod setup.

[WIGuide]

Glass is going to be heavier and less sensitive. A graphite rod with a moderate action will give you the same moderate action of a glass rod with less weight and more sensitivity. Graphite might not be quite as durable as glass but it's just as durable as any of the other graphite rods you use.

[F14A-B]

I believe that the Powell diesel weighs like 3.5 @ 7'

[shanksmare]

I've been fishing for over 60 years. Most of that time I spent fishing with fiberglass rods. During that time I had never broken a glass rod, until recently when I inadvertently stuck one in a fan. It was also a fairly rare occurance to see someone break a rod in the days of fiberglass.

However with the coming of graphite rods that all changed. I have managed to break 6 graphite rods (3 fly rods, 2 baitcasters and a heavy conventional surf rod). So I would say that graphite is a lot more fragile than glass. The more expensive the graphite rod, the higher the blank modulus and the more fragile it is.

 

I prefer s-glass rods for all reaction type baits (spinnerbait, chatterbait, crankbait and swim jig). Glass rods usually have a more parabolic action than the faster action graphite rods. A parabolic action allows you to use a wider range of lure weights and still be able to cast them well. Graphite rods, especially the faster action graphite rods, seem to have a much narrower range of lure weights that they handle well. If you go much above or below this range its like throwing a potato with a pitch fork.

 

Just my opinion for what its worth.

[TorqueConverter]

Despite having less sensitivity over graphite rods, are they more durable over the long run?

 

Also, I was looking at 2 rods for lipless crankbaits and some topwater poppers. Powell Diesel 723CEF and the 705CB model. Which would be best? I usually fish grass with lipless cranks.

 

723CEF is a 7'2" MH XF graphite rod.

 

705CB is a 7' MH Mod-fast glass rod.

 

 

Was thinking about purchasing the 723CEF for its versatility, but it has an XF tip which isn't ideal for treble hooked lures. Any thoughts?

 

The 705Cb is definitely the rod to use for lipless cranks and topwaters.  The rod is actually fast to somewhat extra fast in action, providing the rod with a long backbone not found in most crankbait rods and certainly not in those stubby backbone moderate graphite sticks.  The rods action and light weight are the most impressive features about the rod which is good because it is scantly furnished.

 

Generally speaking glass rods are thought of as more durable than graphite rods.  This is a huge can of worms to open. but I personally that graphite is the more durable material for a rod and that the reason the consensus believes that glass is more durable is because many of us grew up with giant, thick walled, big diameter glass rods that were nearly unbreakable.  When you take fiberglass and form a rod with the same blank diameter and wall thickness as graphite, I begin to question the durability of that rod.  I love my Powell Diesel Glass but it's super light weight and has the some blank diameter as my graphite rods.  If I break it, I will buy another one the same day.

[Big Fish Rice]

If you hear people talk about actions between glass and composite and they tell you "they're the same", you better look elsewhere for advice.

In no way do they perform identically, or feel similar. Glass is much more "giving". I used to fish square bills, cranks and jerkbaits on composite rods. Sometimes, I would get tapped...or I would feel the fish eat the bait, only to lose the fish halfway from the boat. Why? because even if you don't realize it, you're limiting the fish from actually eating the bait. [if they inhale it, that's a different story]

Glass rods allow the fish to ****** the bait, especially when they strike from the tail end of the lure. They almost hook themselves so-to-speak. I use Lamiglas' 705 Excel II glass rod for square bills, shallow and mid cranks and jerkbaits. Since making the switch this year, I completely see why the pro's have been saying this for years.

I only wish I would have switched sooner.