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as a kid i did things 100 x's worse than them and still turned out to be one upstanding adult that respects people and animals from all walks of life. so I go easy on kids but when i see an adult doing something like that.... :mad1: 

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Whats wrong with a little catch and grease??? I keep a couple bass almost everytime I go fishing. I doubt that hurts the bass population

That's fine, but not when they are undersize, and it's catch and release only because it wasn't bass season yet.

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Plus,I ain't eating LMB or SMB I rather enjoy catching them and then releasing. Now if it was gut hooked our bleeding and no chance of surviving that's a different story or if it it's a Sea Bass...yum.

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I applaud the OP in his decision to inform the youngsters . Now I am not one for confrontation , however it makes my blood boil when someone abuses another living creature . Be respectful , it's a living creature that took years to get that size and for everyone else to enjoy . 

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I often see people take illegal(undersized) fish from the water.  People fishing with too many poles. Taking way too many fish. How much meat is on a 12 inch bass. Or the worst bow fishing for gar and carp just for the sake of killing something. If any conservation agents are reading this it happens in North saint Louis county, Mo everyday. 

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That's fine, but not when they are undersize, and it's catch and release only because it wasn't bass season yet.

Yeah there isn't any point in taking bass out of legal limits...

I've seen people come out of the lake I fish on an easy bite with like 15 2-4lb bass... Like why do you need that much fish haha I'll keep at the most 5 and thats too many honestly for one person.

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I think part of life is having some regrets, its usually a hard lesson but changes who you are. A couple quick ones I remember from my youth...

 

1: Almost a week strait I was hunting this hollow between farms chasing this black squirrel and he elduded me every day. On about the third day I started seeing this gray fox come up the hollow in the morning and into his den. I formulated a plan that the fox was to be mine and I would hang him on my wall. He was so neat seeing him come up the hollow every morning. One morning as he came up I was waiting, I knew his route and I rolled him with a 3" mag. THE VERY MOMENT I pulled that trigger I felt like a fool. Here I killed this beautiful fox that gave me entertainment every morning. I never again shot another fox but I still hunt.

 

2: The first fall PA introduced the inline muzzleloader into the fall season was the year I had shoulder surgery, I couldnt draw a bow and being that it was fall here was my chance. I got everything ready, up in a stand opening day and here comes this doe. I slammed her with a 50cal. I get down and walk over to the deer and here comes two fawns lookn for mom. I had to chase them off so I wouldnt have to field dress her in front of them, I had a problem with that. I never forget about those fawns. I dont shoot doe's with fawns anymore, Ill shoot a mature one if theyre traveling as a big group and another doe can take over but a single doe with fawns, never again.

 

Lessons come the hard way a lot of times, heck maybe half of them didnt like the situation but went along to save face with the friends.

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I think part of life is having some regrets, its usually a hard lesson but changes who you are. A couple quick ones I remember from my youth...

 

1: Almost a week strait I was hunting this hollow between farms chasing this black squirrel and he elduded me every day. On about the third day I started seeing this gray fox come up the hollow in the morning and into his den. I formulated a plan that the fox was to be mine and I would hang him on my wall. He was so neat seeing him come up the hollow every morning. One morning as he came up I was waiting, I knew his route and I rolled him with a 3" mag. THE VERY MOMENT I pulled that trigger I felt like a fool. Here I killed this beautiful fox that gave me entertainment every morning. I never again shot another fox but I still hunt.

 

2: The first fall PA introduced the inline muzzleloader into the fall season was the year I had shoulder surgery, I couldnt draw a bow and being that it was fall here was my chance. I got everything ready, up in a stand opening day and here comes this doe. I slammed her with a 50cal. I get down and walk over to the deer and here comes two fawns lookn for mom. I had to chase them off so I wouldnt have to field dress her in front of them, I had a problem with that. I never forget about those fawns. I dont shoot doe's with fawns anymore, Ill shoot a mature one if theyre traveling as a big group and another doe can take over but a single doe with fawns, never again.

 

Lessons come the hard way a lot of times, heck maybe half of them didnt like the situation but went along to save face with the friends.

 

You sir, have a good heart.  Be proud

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15 years ago, I would have approached that situation in a similar manner, I raised my kids, and worked I disagree off to teach them at every oppertunity, still , a few things don't seem to have stuck... Maybe later it will come back to them, however now, No WAY... Am I approaching someone else's kids over a fish.... There are things I most certainly would... Just not a fish, things have changed drastically, Road rage, liability, discrimination , terroristic threatening ,etc, basic social values are similar for many, but not all....I support you're move OP, personally Iam going to side step the fish issue.

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I often see people take illegal(undersized) fish from the water. People fishing with too many poles. Taking way too many fish. How much meat is on a 12 inch bass. Or the worst bow fishing for gar and carp just for the sake of killing something. If any conservation agents are reading this it happens in North saint Louis county, Mo everyday.

I eat 12 inch bass all the time plenty of good tasting meet on those spotted bass.

also, bow hunting do carp is legal and does help a bit. Just cant be within the stated limits to specific areas where people or infrastructure can be found.

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in this day and age in the nation we live in, I wouldn't approach anyone's kids and "instruct" them in anything. I would stay away from them entirely. You are putting yourself too much at risk of false accusations, retaliation, etc if you go putting the fear of God in other people's kids.

 

Remember, they aren't your kids. They belong to and are the responsibility of someone else to discipline. Sure, you may think you are on the side of right, doing the correct thing and teaching them something, but as soon as Dad or worse still, Mom gets ahold of you, you could very well regret ever crossing those kids path.

 

Quite frankly, regardless of what my kid is doing, if I catch ANYONE shooting their mouth off or talking anything less than completely politely to my kid, regardless of the situation, that person best be leaving the area. Quickly. It's my prerogative to harshly reprimand my kid, no one else's. And that is my decision, not yours.

 

Obviously I would want to know what happened and would sit Jr. down and talk it over, point out that you just don't do that kind of thing to living creatures, it's cruel, etc. And it wouldn't happen again, because my kid and I have a great, respectful relationship and I don't have to worry about them doing stuff like that in the first place.

 

But if I ever caught someone else "speaking sternly" or "disciplining" my kid with harsh words, etc. they best be moving on. Quickly. Or they would be getting a lesson in meddling with other people's kids real fast. And maybe another lesson in how you don't talk to kids like that because they immediately think you're just an overbearing jerk and all they do is make fun of you later and you don't accomplish anything positive from doing it.

 

just my .02.

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I eat 12 inch bass all the time plenty of good tasting meet on those spotted bass.

also, bow hunting do carp is legal and does help a bit. Just cant be within the stated limits to specific areas where people or infrastructure can be found.1

12'' bass are not legal to harvest in my area. The min is 18''. And the bow fishers usually toss the carp on the shore and leave.

Sorry to offend anyone. 

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12'' bass are not legal to harvest in my area. The min is 18''. And the bow fishers usually toss the carp on the shore and leave.

Sorry to offend anyone. 

no offence taken at all- 12'' spots are legal to harvest in MO unless your lake has specific restrictions.  I do agree though- bow fishers that toss them to rot is nasty as it just stinks up the entire place.  In your area, and mine as well really in IL, Asian carp obviously a huge problem but a handful of guys throwing them up on bank will not solve it at all (obviously).

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