Tackle Tour Reviews Bps Pro Qualifier

[Montanaro]

How many average Joes are going to clean the grease out? Maybe one in ten? Reel should be tested stock.

[iceintheveins]

Is the PQ as good as a Chronarch, Curado, or higher end Lew's? No. But the only other reel I know of in the price range that compares is the Lew's Speed Spool. The PQ is better than the Curado G series, that much I can assure you. It's not QUITE as good as a citica or my Lew's Tourney MG (both around $130) but it's close.

[aavery2]

Is the PQ as good as a Chronarch, Curado, or higher end Lew's? No. But the only other reel I know of in the price range that compares is the Lew's Speed Spool. The PQ is better than the Curado G series, that much I can assure you. It's not QUITE as good as a citica or my Lew's Tourney MG (both around $130) but it's close.

Thanks for your subjective review, and I mean that in a positive way.

[LMB KING]

probably the best reel for $100 or $90 on sale now

[F14A-B]

There is no question in my mind... TT is very Biased , heavily,...in my personal observation ,...of years of reading, towards Shimano... I like my shimanos, but Diawas are just as dependable, as far as I can tell plenty of users enjoy their Lews, PQ's ..etc... What Pleases people is very personal, shared information is important... But generally is not Finite, I mean seriously, for the sale price of the reel? Who else can or will compete? The reel series has loyal followers... No one can dispute that.

[Goose52]

You got it, but you have to also look at like this, if bologna was the best meat you had ever eaten, how could you possible appreciate what someone was telling you about a fantastic T-bone steak......

 

I guess I'm slow - who is "you" ?

[bootytrain]

Is the PQ as good as a Chronarch, Curado, or higher end Lew's? No. But the only other reel I know of in the price range that compares is the Lew's Speed Spool. The PQ is better than the Curado G series, that much I can assure you. It's not QUITE as good as a citica or my Lew's Tourney MG (both around $130) but it's close.

How can you say its better than a curado G but not better than a citica when the curado is basically a tuned citica?

[Goose52]

They scored the d**n reel at 7 out of 10....

And you all say it isn't fair and they under value it? Very few of their reviewed products hit 8/10 or above...and the ones that do win awards.

If it scored in the fives I'd say you might have a point. But a budget, big box store, generic reel scored an average score when the expectations for those types of reels by consumers is that they are subpar (even junk). I'd say their review is right on point with everything I read about it on this forum.

 

Re 7 out of 10 - true - like aavery2 mentioned, they are rating the reel against all of the reels that they have tested. And 7 out of 10 isn't bad compared to a Conquest, or Antares/Calais, or x or x.  But, they rated it at 6.96 and I'm wondering if there was mathematical manipulation going on to get it into the "Fair" category...because that was their pre-determined opinion of the reel (anyone seen any black helicopters flying around TT lately?    )   One does, however, have to challenge some of the subjective opinions that they use to create their numerical score.

 

Anyway - I caught 5 bass on the test PQ today so at the end of the day that's what counts...or at least it should...

[aavery2]

I guess I'm slow - who is "you" ?

Goose, read it tomorrow or a week from now and see if it makes any more sense, if not, just disregard the post.

 

On second thought maybe it makes more sense if it is written like this,

 

"You got it, but the phrase needs to also be looked at from the sense that, if bologna was the best meat  a person  had ever eaten, how could that person possible appreciate what someone was telling them  about a fantastic T-bone steak......"

[Goose52]

Goose, read it tomorrow or a week from now and see if it makes any more sense, if not, just disregard the post.

 

I'm just trying to find out if the comment was directed at me.  In effect saying that my defense of the PQ is because I have no experience with any better tackle?  That I have no perspective of how much better a reel can be.   If so, you are incorrect.  I do indeed have quite a bit of better tackle. The defense of the PQ was started nearly five years ago to refute incorrect comments and perceptions about a perfectly serviceable reel that is a leader at it's price point. Nothing more, nothing less.  It works, catches fish...

[aavery2]

I will try another analogy and hope it is better.   Think about a boxing match, where the champ is a popular guy and a well loved sports figure.  The contender is known locally as a good hard working guy and is a solid boxer.  As the fight progresses  the Champion wins some rounds but most of the rounds are easily won by the contender.  At the end of the fight, it goes to the cards, result, split decision win in favor of the Champion.

 

The point is that it does not make any difference how the Judges scored the fight on paper, because all the true fans of boxing know who won the match.

[bootytrain]

There is no question in my mind... TT is very Biased , heavily,...in my personal observation ,...of years of reading, towards Shimano... I like my shimanos, but Diawas are just as dependable, as far as I can tell plenty of users enjoy their Lews, PQ's ..etc... What Pleases people is very personal, shared information is important... But generally is not Finite, I mean seriously, for the sale price of the reel? Who else can or will compete? The reel series has loyal followers... No one can dispute that.

Dude, the 2 main guys who write the majority of the articles favor Daiwa, most of the forum members prefer Shimano but have reels of all brands. But the most active members that post in the TT forum favor Daiwa.

[Goose52]

I will try another analogy and hope it is better.   Think about a boxing match, where the champ is a popular guy and a well loved sports figure.  The contender is known locally as a good hard working guy and is a solid boxer.  As the fight progresses  the Champion wins some rounds but most of the rounds are easily won by the contender.  At the end of the fight, it goes to the cards, result, split decision win in favor of the Champion.

 

The point is that it does not make any difference how the Judges scored the fight on paper, because all the true fans of boxing know who won the match.

 

That's better...

[aavery2]

I am goinig to agree with Bootytrain on this one, I have been a member of Tackle Tour for quite a while, long before their server crashed,  and post counts started all over.  I would say that my time at TT has always felt like a Daiwa dominated forum, much to the extent that Shimano is brand of choice here.

[TorqueConverter]

I think Wall Booger is spot on although he rants on about the Zillion as if it has some relevance to a PQ review.   The PQ is an old dog but it's also not a flash in the pan.  The fair rating is appropriate IMO. 

[Montanaro]

Does it make difference if it is fair or good?

All I see is a respectable score for an underdog.

[Ima Bass Ninja]

Maybe TT should come up with a system based on price point and what you get for the money. Put the PQ in the $100 or less category and it will rate very high compared to others like the exceler, caneen, prodigy, etc. but throw it in with zillions and chronarchs it's not exactly apples to apples. I felt the review was vs higher end tackle as well, but I put more faith in my own judgement and reviews here, than the number TT gives to a reel.

[21farms]

how interesting. i read the review first thing this morning and thought it was pretty favorable toward the PQ. then, i come over here and read this thread and you'd think TT trashed it or something.

 

anyway, i've owned two PQs and i would agree with most everything they said. i think it is a good reel for $80 to $90 but not particularly memorable for anything. the PQ is definitely getting long in the tooth and is both larger and heavier than many of the newer reels. i liked mine a lot more a few years ago when i didn't have as much or as nice the stuff i have now...i think it's even moreso for the TT guys as they fish much more often and with a much larger variety of gear than most people.

[Arv]

I guess my disagreement is coming from MY assumption that they should be evaluating a $100 reel as a $100 reel and not against ALL reels available. If it is put up to the same standards as $200-$600 reels, I agree that a "fair" rating is actually fair and a solid rating for the reel. However, IMO, if compared to other reels in the $100 price range, a "fair" rating is lower than deserved. I don't think they trashed the reel, regardless of the rating. I just don't think it makes sense to include things like a reel cover in the rating, especially when rating a $100 reel. But, that's their standard and they are entitled to review it by those standards. They are fair and rate all products by the same standards. Whether they are partial towards scoring certain brands higher than others can be argued. I know my opinion on that matter, but it doesn't really matter. 

[dam0007]

How does the Curado G get pulled into this? I've caught more fish then I can count, won tourneys and cashed checks because of the G. It's not a bad reel at all.

[Cgrinder]

It was a decent review, not one of their best. I don't know why the Crazy Cranker was ever mentioned and the comment about there being better $100 reels seemed tacked on at the end and certainly unsupported. 

 

However I don't go to TT for the reviews. I go to TT to look at pictures that make my wallet empty. 

[Tywithay]

It's an $80, 8oz+, reel that hasn't been redesigned in several years and it scored nearly a 7 in 2014. I don't think that's anything to complain about. In the grand scheme, it's just an entry-level reel and is not meant to compete with Curados, Zillions, and certainly not the Steez.i understand that nobody wants to hear that their favorite rod or reel isn't the greatest thing ever, but not everyone will agree with you. It may very well be the best $80-$100 reel ever, but it's still an $80-$100 reel and it cannot compare to the more expensive reels. I've used a PQ and found it to be an ok reel, but it felt cheap and unrefined to me. That's partly because I am used to using the higher end stuff and that's where the bar is set for me. It doesn't mean it's a bad reel by any means. The particular chap that reviewed it typically does all the lower end items and I don't think he's as blinded by enthusiast gear like the other two guys. He gave it a fair review that was largely positive, and I think it's a fair representation of the reel's capabilities.

[iabass8]

His review was pretty spot on. He did sprinkle in a little subjective nonsense that he should have known better to include but he did a pretty fair job of the reel. I'll never understand the TT scoring system.  deduct points for not having a reel bag included on a 99$ reel..come on...The silly "it doesn't palm well to me" scoring deduction. Spoiler alert..we don't all have the same size hands. I personally feel the reel palms amazingly well. Kind of a silly opinion based score. If this score was based on his own personal preferences and scoring system then I'm off base and apologize but I don't believe that to be true. It should have been graded higher if it were in a class of 100$ reels but if the scoring is based upon a scale of every reel, there's no way that reel should have even scored a 5. Aside from that, his review was pretty good.

[JGBassinAL]

I feel like this thread should be named "I can't believe TT rated my favorite reel fair".

[bbgobie]

I don't see how it's not fair for htheir methodology

Comparing it to $80-100 reels would be dumb. There would be like 1 other rel in the category for them in 10 years. If you're interested in a rwel in that price range they've provided ample info about it. When you look at the score and its in the same range as reels 2x as much you can make your own decision about it. If it scored a 9.9 for reels under 100 and the Tatula scores a ?9.8 for under 150 which is the better reel now? What if the tatula got a 9.9?

They have provided info. Either read it and digest it or blindly go buy something because someone told you too on the internet

The review is better than most on forums that go like this " got a new _____ its the best _____ ever!!!! Used it in my living room"