BassBossMN Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Am I the only one that thinks a 9.0:1 might be a little overkill? Quote
Diggy Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 I wanted to try one, but I hated the color! But now theres this So now Im like 3 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 Why would it be over kill? You use the rod to work the bait. Any reasonable fast to fast retrieve is fine for frogs, so long as it's a metal framed reel. 2 Quote
Super User Raul Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 You don't reel in steadily for the bait to work, basically the bait is worked by the rod. Quote
Super User tcbass Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 I wanted to try one, but I hated the color! But now theres this So now Im like So is the only difference the color? Quote
CJV Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 There is no such thing as a gear ratio "too fast" for frogging. Quote
21farms Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 So is the only difference the color? shallower spool and a clicking drag too to the OP, the extra speed is great for frogging Quote
Super User tcbass Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 shallower spool and a clicking drag too to the OP, the extra speed is great for frogging So it holds less line, but the benefit is it's more low profile? And whats the benefit of a clicking drag? Quote
21farms Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 fishing line is relatively heavy so a spool that holds less line will be lighter and have less inertia to overcome at spool startup. it will be more effortless for pitching and casting lighter lures. as for the clicking drag, it's mainly cool I guess. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 fishing line is relatively heavy so a spool that holds less line will be lighter and have less inertia to overcome at spool startup. it will be more effortless for pitching and casting lighter lures. as for the clicking drag, it's mainly cool I guess. Most baitcasters with a clicking drag are meant for light line, so you know line is being pulled, or for seabass because a lot of that is done at night. 1 Quote
Grantman83 Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 The Japanese version color is cooler. Regarding speed, if the torque can hold up then there shouldn't be a problem. When you have a fast reel that feels impossible to crank under then u have an issue. I give Abu credit for continually trying to create specific reels for specific purposes. If it helps to create a more tuned in combo for a specific purpse, then so be it, all the better Quote
frogflogger Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Never used one that fast but when I'm grinding in a good frog fish I don't want higher than 6:3 or so Quote
Super User MCS Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 How much is the jap version? Us is already $300 that gotta be an ice cold $500 right? 1 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 How much is the jap version? Us is already $300 that gotta be an ice cold $500 right? About $350. Most reels are cheaper when purchased from Japan; especially with the Yen in a pretty good spot. 1 Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 I use a walking action with a frog a lot of the time, to do this well you need to manage the slack in your line. I prefer a reel with a little lower IPT than typical 7.1:1 reels offer. Having a reel with a lower IPT allows me to have a better rhythm while walking the frog and managing the slack line. There are times when a faster reel would be a big benefit, but I have found for me a little slower reel is more comfortable. Quote
Super User MCS Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 About $350. Most reels are cheaper when purchased from Japan; especially with the Yen in a pretty good spot. Not bad for the upgrades mentioned. That's a fair price Quote
DTack Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 I don't believe in a reel that's made being too fast for frog fishing. I'm yet to feel a high speed reel that has no power or lacks power, I think that may be something that has changed with recent technology as far as what we actually feel or what a reel does when actually performing. I know reels are still labeled as "high power" with low gear ratios, but I am just on the side that says a reel doesn't really lock up or lack power anymore just because it's higher gearing. Just personal opinion and personal "feel". Quote
Creekcrappie Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Thats what chris lane said he uses for frogging. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 13, 2014 Super User Posted June 13, 2014 Not sure why a reel's gear ratio would be too weak due to gear ratio…I always use the rod to move the fish, not the reel. Quote
BasshunterJGH Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 I can't think of anything I would need to use a reel with a gear ratio higher than 7.6:1 or 8:1. I don't know what the big deal is about the rocket. Get a premier or stx Quote
FrogFreak Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 When a bass is trying it's best to wrap itself in weeds, I'm guessing a high speed reel would be beneficial but I'm just guessing since the highest gear ratio I own is a 6:3:1. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 17, 2014 Super User Posted June 17, 2014 Higher speed has nothing to do with what happens when you have a bass on the line - you move the bass with the rod, not the reel. A faster reel is nice for getting your bait back in quickly, and fiing another cast off. That's really it. Everything else is preference. It's also important to note that as spool diameters decrease, ratios must increase in order to maintain high IPT targets. Quote
ColdSVT Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Never used one that fast but when I'm grinding in a good frog fish I don't want higher than 6:3 or so Hollow bodies i like a 6.2...solid bodies i like a 7.1 Quote
Super User tcbass Posted June 17, 2014 Super User Posted June 17, 2014 Higher speed has nothing to do with what happens when you have a bass on the line - you move the bass with the rod, not the reel. A faster reel is nice for getting your bait back in quickly, and fiing another cast off. That's really it. Everything else is preference. It's also important to note that as spool diameters decrease, ratios must increase in order to maintain high IPT targets. Won't it pick up slack and get the fish back faster when you reel in too? Quote
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