Cross between countdown and jig???

[Tenka]

I want to make a countdown bait in the shape of a blue gill, that can be bounce on the bottom like a jig.  There is a swin bait like this but i want to try it out of wood and make it a little smaller.  I am interested if anyone else has tried this.  

i am thinking to weight it on the bottom of the nose with a small lip for a little wobble when sinking, lifted and/or jerked(or would a flat face like a rattle trap do the same?) Line tie would be high on the head or on the nose.  I want the hooks to stick up away from the bottom to reduce snags.  The tail would be a "marabou tied" treble or weedless single to give the simulation of movement while bait is feeding or dieing on the bottom.  

[Peter E.]

Sounds good I would make the face of that lure a little wide so that it ballances well. I would also suggest trying unpainted blanks and such that you have loaded with weight in say an aquarium or tub. Don't invest time and money in the paint and such until you have the action right. That is just my opinion. it sounds like a great Idea so send us some pictures, I want to know how it turns out. It sounds like it would be a great lure during the post spawn period. I may try that idea of a lure myself.

Peter

[Tenka]

I have been thinking about this, i may have to hollow out most of the lure to get rid of bouyancy with out having to make it a 2 or 3 oz lure.  I want it to be light enough for normal rod use at the most 1.5oz for a jig/flippin rod.  Any suggestions on wood type to try?  I am kinda leaning toward oak for stregnth since there won't be and awlful lot of "wood" left when i'm done.   The scetches i have started don't look that hard to carve out.

[Peter E.]

Well Tenka,

     

    From what I under stand there are some woods that have less boyancy than others. I understand that cedar is one of them it dives deeper than most woods. One place I would go would be tackleunderground.com they have forums much like this one and I think it is a great site. If I remeber right whittler suggested it yesterday to me.

     I would add that if you plan to hollow the lure out I would try making it a sandwich lure. Rapala makes their lures like that because they are made of balsa they can break easily, well not real easy but easier than other woods. I would hollow it out like you said but have it so that each half is hollowed out and than glue them together. Also by hollowing them out this way you reduce the amount of wood on the lure, and therefore the weight. You might even be able to put some rattles in it. I would leave the tail end solid and therefore increase the boyancy of the tail and make the lure stand up better.

     When you glue them I would suggest a glue called Wood-All this stuff is tough. The man I worked for this summer uses it to help make cabinets and I garuntee that the wood you glue with it breaks before that glue does.

     Hey these aren't bad ideas why am I telling you  :-?. Well anyway I hope you can make some sense out of my ramblings and I think if you do they may help  :. Like I said I am going to try the ideas myself.

Tell me what you think and good luck,

Peter

[Tenka]

Peter,

Sounds good.  Put few more ideas in the pot.  And glad for them.

[Peter E.]

Well so long as it goes good, then it was worth it. Just give her a whirl and see how it goes. To be honest i can't think of any lure like it and that is where great things come from. From people who think outside the box.

Good luck

Peter

[Chris]

Why not make it out of plexy glass? (think thats how you spell it) just stack them up and glue them together then take a dremmel tool to hollow it out then add weight/rattles then glue the last piece and shape it then add a lip.