Elwood aka Ted Striker. Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 You alright fellas been busy for a while but glad to be back at it aye. I recently purchased the g loomis nrx 893c g as my second baitcasting rod purchase and paired it with a daiwa steez but until i get the new suline shooter im using my tatula type r on it at the moment . problem is for some reason the rod is not loading properly on the cast and is casting nowhere near as far as my 7 foot st croix ltb rated as a medium light-medium with the same reel, same jigheads and trailers . I know the rods are of different ratings but after doing quite a bit of research and talking i was given the impression that 3/8ths + trailer was the sweet spot on the nrx 893c so what could be going on. Im casting 3/8 jigheads with 2" - 3" berkley power grubs and also tried zoom swimmin fluke jr . My reel is loaded with 8lb gamma fluorocarbon and i havent used line conditioner yet . Also was disapointed with the sensitivity of the rod a little but have realised this could be down to the fact that gamma edge fluoro has a lot of stretch compared to most tests ive seen doesnt it. Was considering changing the line to 15lb spiderwire invisi-braid or putting the braid on the steez as i use it on my spinning set up and not had any problems with it but have heard and seen issues braid damaging the re-coil guides aye. Could it be i have been unfortunate of receiving a rare dodgy rod ? or am i doing something wrong due to misinterpreting or misunderstanding information ive been reading and the people ive been talking to? Has anyone had or heard of this problem? Anyone got any ideas what could be wrong or how to fix? Look forward to hearing your views and experiences fellas . Cheers aye. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted June 9, 2014 Super User Posted June 9, 2014 Might be the extra fast action causing the issue. I always feel the difference in the rod loading and casting my x-fast rods compared to fast action. Quote
Elwood aka Ted Striker. Posted June 9, 2014 Author Posted June 9, 2014 Cheers for your response fella . My st croix lbt is also xfast action and the nrx 893c is only my 2nd xfast action rod ive used so unless the nrx xfast action is a lot faster than the st croix lbt xfast action then maybe . But it seems just seems as if the nrx is too powerful for my application . I was advised by many that it would be fine and that 3/8-1/2 oz was the sweet spot on the 893c . Could it be that the rod maybe faulty? or maybe something else? Look forward to hearing you views . Cheers aye Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 The rod is not faulty, but may not be the right power for what you want to do. Rod specs are subjective so there will always be some trial and error. Quote
Elwood aka Ted Striker. Posted June 9, 2014 Author Posted June 9, 2014 Cheers for your response fella aye. My fear seems to be closer to being confirmed . I just bought this rod new + $88.00 shipping to the uk + customs tax etc and gutted would be an understatement . I might increased my jighead weight to 1/2 of an ounce and see if that makes it a little better and with the 7:1.1 retrieve of my reel it might keep the bait swimming a foot off the bottom on a slow straight retrieve which seems to get better results with my target species . Heard a lot about the bait monkey on here . I think in future i will arm myself with a bunch of bananas lol . I could send it back and change it for a lighter power but thats another $88.00 return charge and then id imagine another $88.00 to send the new lighter powered rod back and then customs etc aye. Heard a lot about the bait monkey on here . I think in future i will arm myself with a bunch of bananas lol . Braid should increase the casting distance a bit shouldnt it? Do know if the braid would damage the re-coil guides on the rod though? Look forward to hearing from you . Cheers aye. Quote
Tartan34 Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I don't think you want a lighter power for that application. The 3 Power NRX XF Rods are terrific, but in order for me to maximize distance when casting, I needed to practice with it for awhile. I found a sweet spot release point for the rod, and it is different than the 3 Power F NRX rods. Just give it some more time on the water, and find your comfort level with the rod. Also, I get better casting distance with a "pop" cast vs. a "sweeping" cast. If you are thinking about exchanging it, I'd look at the MBR 843 NRX.....a sweet stick for your application, for sure. Quote
Elwood aka Ted Striker. Posted June 9, 2014 Author Posted June 9, 2014 Tartan, the light at the end of the tunnel . Need to here that aye. Perhaps thats what i need . Thought i was casting like a pro on the St Croix Lbt on my first outing lol . Do you think 8lb sunline shooter would give me a better casting distance as well as sensitivity fella? Was looking at sunline sx1 also but have heard about re-coil guide damage with braid . What do you reckon? Look forward to hearing from you . Cheers aye. Quote
Elwood aka Ted Striker. Posted June 12, 2014 Author Posted June 12, 2014 You alright fellas. Put braid on steez today and put it on the nrx and what difference from when my tatula and fluorocarbon was on it . The G Loomis NRX 893c ??? AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The fluorocarbon on my tatula had miles too much stretch and was all wrong aye. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 12, 2014 Super User Posted June 12, 2014 If you recall or go back and review your inquiries regarding NRX rod power I posted they are about 1/2.power under rated compared to other rods, your are fishing a 4 power rod comparing it to St Croix MH F. Try Tangle Free original line conditioner and adjust the reel weight 4 on - 2 off. Sunline Shooter has more memory than Super Sniper,go with 10 lb, equal in diameter to Gamma 8 lb. Tom Quote
skeletor6 Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 I have fished this rod in both the green and blue versions extensively. This rod performs fantastic in the 3/16-1/2 oz range and casts exceptionally well within that range. I've used both 12lb Shooter and Tatsu with a Curado 50e, Steez 100, and Exsence DC. Not a single problem from the very first cast. The 893c is the highest performing NRX series rod I own. This rod offers more sensitivity than I can put to good use. Spend some time and get accustomed to what it is offering. It's not going to shock your hand when you hit a pebble. However, it will offer subtle sensation that you need to pay attention to. I've used both braid and fluorocarbon with this rod and highly favor the latter of the two. Quote
Elwood aka Ted Striker. Posted June 12, 2014 Author Posted June 12, 2014 You alright WRD. You was definitely right about 8lb fluoro needing line conditioner aye. Just for the less friction and smoothness of the cast I can see how it's much needed for more distance in casting . I will be ordering the line conditioner you mentioned and some sunline fluorocarbon and braid . My st croix lbt is a finesse xfast But as you said its underrated and I was using jighead weights probably above its truer rating So casting it we'll over loaded was easier due to feeling the weight more I'd imagine aye. I've realised a swing-ish swipe of the arm with a swift flick of the wrist at the end of the the arm motion at the right release point and the NRX was casting like a dream aye. Skeletor6 you alright fella. Still a newbie to lure fishing fella aye. Much more used to casting slower action rods for uk species such as barbel, carp, chub, roach etc . Totally agree with regards to learning the sensation and such . The aim is definitely to use fluorocarbon It's just the fluorocarbon I had on my tatula had far to much stretch so I put braid on my unspooled steez for now until I order some sunline shooter or sniper which will be today . Glad I did as it was a reel eye opener for everything I was doing wrong with regards to casting and striking at weed and such aye. Quote
Elwood aka Ted Striker. Posted June 12, 2014 Author Posted June 12, 2014 Meant to say . Cheers for your responses fellas . I would like to think I'm definitely going good now and on the right track . Cheers again . Cheers aye. Elwood . Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 12, 2014 Super User Posted June 12, 2014 I suspect this will become your favorite rod. Quote
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