That's Photoshopped!!

[SPEEDBEAD.]

LOL, I have one strictly to mess with the DREAM fellas.

 

Hate those things.

[Lund Explorer]

You're an entertaining ol' cat, I'll give you that. Your treading into LongMike crotchety zone also, which is truly impressive.

 

Question my pics all you want. I've got no problem with it if you LEGITIMATELY think I've altered the pic in some way, shape or form. I'd actually expect and encourage someone to call me out if my fish didnt appear to be accurate representations of the posted weights. However, if you're doing it for some other self-serving reason then your intentions are misplaced IMO.

 

Do I care that you question me? Nope. I feed on that. It makes me want to post bigger fish. It makes me want to help more people catch bigger fish in their respective areas.

 

So, thank you for your time. Please, whenever you feel like posting up some fish, feel free to do so.

 

Thank you very much for the compliments, but I'm afraid I am but a mere shadow when compared to the brilliance shown by such a great mentor as LongMike.

 

In the spirit of reciprocating in kind, I have thought long and hard and it has finally come to me.

 

For your inane ability to judge the exact weight of everyone else's fish by merely looking at a picture, you have surely risen to the level of the following sage.

 

 

 

[SPEEDBEAD.]

Wow. A Johnny Carson reference?  You're dating yourself bud.

 

You keep doing your thing. I'm not entirely sure what it is but you keep doing it. Since this is a fishing forum, perhaps even go fishing and post a picture to share with the group. I hope you weigh it. I'll be watching!

[NEjitterbugger]

LOL, "claimed" just what the scale says.

 

I'm sorry you seem to have taken this so personally but amazingly enough, people DO have differing viewpoints on things. Just because I state mine doesn't mean I'm trying to sway you any more than you are trying to sway me.

 

The only thing I ask is for you not to be a jackass about it.

 

 

Your pulling on the bottom of it Speed, we all know that fish is only pushing 4.5 pounds... Maybe 

 

Are people seriously questioning that your fish isn't 8.64lbs... Sometimes you just gotta shake your head and laugh

[slonezp]

Wouldn't it be funny if Glenn had to lock his own thread? 

[NEjitterbugger]

Wouldn't it be funny if Glenn had to lock his own thread? 

 

LOL, was thinking the same thing

[SPEEDBEAD.]

I have no clue how it's gone this far really.

 

I just want the guy to post a pic

[F14A-B]

9 pages and loosing steam? I know there's a point here, I am just not sure it's 9 pages long.

[NEjitterbugger]

I find it just as immature/disappointing to shoot down or harp on a suspicion that someone is lying than someone actually fibbing themselves...

 

Nothing wrong with doubting, in fact if people didn't doubt things the world would be a pretty horrible place... But sometimes, it is illogical, wrong, and not worth it..

[quanjig]

I find it amusing that it's frowned upon to challenge a questionable post of a fish pic that someone estimates the weight.

Those that have consistently shown such high reguard for recording weights with said pictures? Those people to me are beyond reproach. It's usually the randos that are fairly new to the forum that are trying to fit in or make a statement by "pushing " the fish at the camera to generate a larger profile! That my friends is unacceptable! Why they do it is anybody's guess, but most of the guys and gals on this forum that take the time to validate their big fish, will go unquestioned to me!

[J Francho]

There's a deeper question here - Wayne probably knows what I'm gearing to, he has a pro photog in the family. It boils down to photographic ethics and whether a photograph is a document of the truth, or or the moment, and all the emotion that accompanies that moment. I could go on and on, and I might later when I have a moment.

I'm of the opinion that a picture's purpose is capture the joy of the catch, and to celebrate both the angler and the fish. Nothing else. Publicly, I've softened on my opinion of outlandish claims. Privately, it still chaps my rear just a little.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

Oh, I get to hear about photog forums from her.

 

You think we're harsh? LMAO! Not even close.

[quanjig]

J, I think that's it in a nutshell. I guess I just can't let it fester! Being a mod, you have to be a little more diplomatic about such situations!!

[5 Dollar Fishing Game]

LMAO, Behold the beast of beast (the fish not the beard)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

smallieHUGE.jpg

That picture!! I literally LOL standing in line for lunch.

[Ratherbfishing]

I have a (ahem) friend who claimed that on one fishing trip he and his dad caught over 100 bass apiece with at least 50% of them being 3 or 4 lbs.  I did the math and that meant that for just ONE of them, it would have meant that, assuming the 3 to 4 lbers were just 3 lbs each, it would have been approximately 150 lbs of bass.  For both, it would have been at least 300 lbs of bass-excluding the other 50% of smaller fish.  Not impossible, I suppose, but extremely improbable -particularly since this is the same fellow who once recounted a story where a friend of his wife once alledgedly said about him "I knew he was big but I didn't know he was THAT big!"  This is a guy who couldn't possibly weigh more than 130 lbs soaking wet.

 

Anyway, to make a long story short, did I feel it necessary to call him out on his fish?  No.  I wanted to but supposing I was wrong and they actually had caught that many.  Then I'd be an arse.  And even if they hadn't, what good would it have done?  He is who he is.  I'll admit that when he told the "that big" story about himself, I nearly hurt myself trying not to laugh, but really, a liar will eventually call himself out.  Early on in my relationship with this person, I believed some of his stories but now, I take them with a grain of salt.  Sometimes I think he actually believes some of the things he says-which is, in itself, kind of pitiful.

[J Francho]

I'd believe it if it were smallies. My dad and have had a few trips with over 150 in the boat. We usually quit at noon.

[tatertester]

Come on people, we all know any number of people that STRETCH the truth or FRACTURE facts. They come in all sizes , shapes, and ages....Some just cant help themself and tend to exaggerate all the time, while others limit it to others they want to impress....My nephew is an uncurable fish length stretcher....We normally just measure for length , only sometimes weighing. Nephew sends me photos and his 5's are 3 1/2's whenever he isn't fishing with me. When we fish together he tries to hide his measurements, quickly tossing back the fish to fog up the situation....I have learned to laugh at his very predictable actions , expecting nothing less........I too do not approve of the lying , but chalk it up to human imperfections.....Just think what the percentage is for the Political ranks?.........OMG!!!!!!!! 

[SirSnookalot]

I find it amusing that it's frowned upon to challenge a questionable post of a fish pic that someone estimates the weight.

Those that have consistently shown such high reguard for recording weights with said pictures? Those people to me are beyond reproach. It's usually the randos that are fairly new to the forum that are trying to fit in or make a statement by "pushing " the fish at the camera to generate a larger profile! That my friends is unacceptable! Why they do it is anybody's guess, but most of the guys and gals on this forum that take the time to validate their big fish, will go unquestioned to me!

 

 

 

Oh really, just new people pushing a fish at the camera?  I would say that practice is the norm and not the exception.  It not only happens here but on every other fishing forum I have been on.  Reason why it's done is simple, bragging rights, and recognition, if that weren't the case the pictures wouldn't be posted in the first place.

 

I once read a post that I could never forget, it was in a thread similar to this one.  The poster claimed that he/she never pushes a fish to the lens, of the scores and scores of pics posted by that person I've not noticed one that wasn't.  I'll name one guilty party................me, I've done it, any one else gonna fess up?  

 

I'll take everyone's word on weight, because I can't prove otherwise.  I have no choice but to accept ones word, even a fish hanging from the scale proves one thing only, the fish is out of the water.  Doesn't prove how it was caught or who actually caught it.  I saw a guy getting his picture taken of a really nice snook, hell he caught it throwing a cast net for bait, lol.......

[quanjig]

Don't get me wrong, I'm far from perfect! When I post pics of fish, I somehow try to give the fish some perspective by laying the fish on top of the cooler or next to a combo!

[Glenn]

No, you don't want to do that, because then you'll get blasted for mishandling the fish!

 

I think this thread has served its purpose - that there's no way possible to know how big a fish really is unless you were there to witness it first hand.  Anything else is pure guesswork and speculation.  The snarky comments, "calling out", and false accusations are therefore, poor representations of the bass fishing community.

[*Hootie]

No, you don't want to do that, because then you'll get blasted for mishandling the fish!

I think this thread has served its purpose - that there's no way possible to know how big a fish really is unless you were there to witness it first hand. Anything else is pure guesswork and speculation. The snarky comments, "calling out", and false accusations are therefore, poor representations of the bass fishing community.

If I could give this post 2 likes, I would.

Hootie

[senile1]

First of all, I have to agree with Glenn.  By calling someone out on what we "think" is a poor estimate of a fish's weight we create bad blood between us and the person called out, and probably others who are privy to the conversation.  And what have we proven?  We didn't weight the fish.  We didn't measure the fish.  We weren't there.  This is a case of us calling someone out and pronouncing them guilty with only a single piece of circumstantial evidence - a photograph.  And what if it turns out that we were wrong?  Who is the jerk then?

 

That's not to say I haven't seen pictures that were so far off I couldn't help but drop a hint, but it has been a few years.  I have learned some lessons.  There are obviously some photographs that just scream "I am only a 3 lb fish" but there shouldn't be too many people on this forum who don't realize those weights are off.  Other than making the poster feel like a cad, I'm not sure that calling them out accomplishes anything else.  And what if the person posting the weight sincerely thought he was making a good guess?  He or she could have really made an honest mistake and now we are going to berate them until they crawl under a rock?  I agree that we should weigh our fish with a scale and state that weight, but some anglers aren't at that point yet.  Again, there are obvious exceptions to my examples here, but I am just saying I don't think we should paint with such a wide brush.  Not everyone that posts a questionable weight is a liar. 

 

It has been my experience that absolutes are rare and the truth usually lies in the gray area.  People aren't just immoral jerks or saints.  There is a middle ground.  There are some people who lie about their weights and there are some who just make mistakes.  It all boils down to this.  Are you ok with asserting your superior moral code over someone who just made a mistake, or who maybe just took a bad picture? 

[Brian Needham]

We didn't weight the fish.

neither did they(90% of the time).

I am not singling you out by quoting you, it just fit what I wanted say.

it is my opinion you can't be a "serious fisherman" unless you own a scale.

I don't care where you live, what you drive, what rod you use, if you have a boat..... but I will judge you on whether you have a scale or not.

opinions vary but that is mine for the most part.

[jtharris3]

After reading all 10 pages of this thread I think I can sum up the answer in a few words. Because, people are stupid!

[SirSnookalot]

neither did they(90% of the time).

I am not singling you out by quoting you, it just fit what I wanted say.

it is my opinion you can't be a "serious fisherman" unless you own a scale.

I don't care where you live, what you drive, what rod you use, if you have a boat..... but I will judge you on whether you have a scale or not.

opinions vary but that is mine for the most part.

I must not be a serious fishermen then, I don't carry a scale for any kind of fishing.  I do fish everyday, make my own lures for some of my target species, fish inshore salt and offshore ocean, then do bass fishing in the afternoons.  Am I curious sometimes, you bet and if a scale happens to be around I may have a fish weighed, it sure won't be a 25" fish.

I've posted my fair share of pictures, in reality it's a small fraction of what I catch.  Many of my fish are caught early morning with no one around to snap a photo, in the case of a 40" tarpon for example it's illegal to take them out of the water even for a photo op.  Just because I don't carry a scale, tripod for a camera, log every 15" fish I catch doesn't diminish my seriousness in catching fish.  It's a matter of personal priorities not level of seriousness, I don't care if a fish weighed 9.9 or 10.001, it's just a number.  Milestones and PB mean very little to me, all that matters to me is the thrill at that moment, and I'm serious about that.