Suspendingjerk Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Jeez Glenn knows how to stir the pot. Only thing I will say/ask is why waste the mental energy it takes to be annoyed when someone lies about a big fish? Much more productive things to do than worry about someone else's opinion/fish story. I think there are deeper unresolved issues here. The same issues that are behind the motives to lie about a fishes size, no? Quote
Suspendingjerk Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Funny how the I don't care club is ok with being lied to but not ok with calling a liar, a liar. A very liberal attitude. If somebody weighed the fish and its on video then those guys who called him out might just be jelous. I was once called out online after I was on a great bite and showed multiple pics of big bass. He said I photoshopped the pictures. I went out the next day and caught a couple more and took pics and video. The guy that called me out apologized. There is right and wrong and there is giving somebody the benefit of the doubt. If your obviously lying you should be called out. If your estimation is reasonable then people should let it go. There is a real simple solution to all this. If you catch a fish or take a great picture and the fish looks extra big, don't claim a weight if your going to lie about it. If your going to say the weight be truthful. Instead of lying just show the pic and say look at my fish. Let other people think the fish is a certain weight. HELLO? So you call a liar a liar. Did you change the fact he lied? Are you preventing him from telling more lies in the future? Does it bother you perhaps because you have done the same? Maybe some projection going on here? Just an observation. 1 Quote
Suspendingjerk Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 To be perfectly clear, I have no problem with you calling a liar a liar. I just don't feel the need to expell any energy to do so myself. Quote
Mattlures Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Its just one of those things that has always bothered me, kind like littering. As long as I can remember I have always been annoyed when I know somebody is lying to me. I call a spade a spade. Have I ever lied? Of course but I rarely if ever do it anymore. Plus we are talking about lying to brag about something. If it doesn't bother you then don't say anything. Its pretty simple. It also goes both ways. If I see a picture and somebody is being called out and I think the claim is accurate I will defend that person. I have been on both sides, the accused and accuser. Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted June 8, 2014 Super User Posted June 8, 2014 "but I rarely ever do it any more", I like that. Can I feel free to use that line whenever I feel the need to lie?.....laughable indeed! Hootie 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 8, 2014 Super User Posted June 8, 2014 Nice fish. I always knew those big four pounders were hiding out Up North! That's not me - No wait, yes it is me - that's the ticket . . . . . . A-Jay 1 Quote
tatertester Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Man oh man!.....If your going to be calling out those you perceive as lying , stretching the truth or whatever you strongly disagree with in the fishing venue, you must be a busy man....Now you say I'm a liberal if I don't call out someone that appears to be lying about a fish weight....I d**n sure mentally keep notes on such matters, but simply am not going to let allow it to demand an overt denunciation of such practices so I can sleep at nite......I consider myself to be rather outspoken , however have learned that in many cases being judgemental to the point of confrontation is often a waste of energy better put to use in other ways......These days I have a full plate of things to be concerned about such as, making sure I fish as often as possible, keeping my boat, rods, reels , lures,etc ready for action at a moments notice, keeping my wife comfortable so as to avoid "fish fights", living in a manner that respects people and nature......I try not to worry about things beyond my control like my Leukemia, Skin Cancer, Neuropathy, CHF and diabetes....Being right is sometimes a priority, but not all its cracked up to be!........Enjoy, while you can.......JMHO 4 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted June 8, 2014 Super User Posted June 8, 2014 Many years ago, I watched a show on tv, that was an audience participation show. They had a psychologist who had done some studies that proved that people with brown eyes had some diabolical and evil traits. With a few examples, and scientific demonstrations, in a short period of time they had the whole audience ready to go to war, brown eyed people against the blue eyed people. It was getting totally out of control, when they stopped and revealed that it just a hoax, an experiment to show just how quickly people could be turned against one another for the stupidest reasons. ...Just wondering....you suppose this is what Glenn was doing?.....lol. Hootie Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Cheats, liars and fakes.... they all suck. Not exactly quality traits. It is what is. If its a 5 lb 0 oz bass then that's what it is. If it is a 4 lb 12 oz bass then that is what it is. Why lie about it ? If you see a pic of a photo shopped "10 lber" then go ahead and call them out on it, or don't. It doesn't really matter.. Personally it does bother me to a certain point when some one claims that the fish they caught is much bigger then it actually is. Chances are that they didn't weigh it or measure it so to them that fish is as big as they feel it should be in there mind. I weigh all the big bass I catch and check my scale often. I can read a scale. This past fall I caught a 9 lb 1 oz bass in Maine. I posted the picture online and for the most part people were congratulatory. There were a few though that doubted the size of the fish, even after I posted the video of me weighing it on a scale. Those few select individuals really, really ticked me off. If some one feels they need to lie or exaggerate the size of a fish they caught to make themselves feel good or give the impression that they are a better fisherman then they are, then let them, that is pretty sad. ^^^^^agree^^^^^ Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 I don't really look for the photoshopped fish. If someone really wants to take that much money, time and effort to add a few pounds , then whatever. That's ridiculous to me. The only thing that is annoying is a posted weight that is clearly not true. Yeah yeah yeah. I know cameras can be difficult to capture an accurate view, the angle is different, etc. But don't post a fish and claim it to be 13lbs when you have it by your thumb and barely your index finger. The blatant stuff bugs me. I know there is grey scale. My avatar pic is my PB at 6 pounds 6 ounces. One guy said it looks 3 pounds. Whatever. I know it's true and people said it looks 5 or 6. Okay okay okay. It's a pound or two lost visually by the way I held it, picture angle, lighting, satellite pattern, moon phase, earth axis tilt, and all the other crap. But you don't see me claiming it to be a DD. ;-) Quote
Mattlures Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 "but I rarely ever do it any more", I like that. Can I feel free to use that line whenever I feel the need to lie?.....laughable indeed! Hootie If I said that I never lied before or that I will never lie again then that in itself is a lie. For example I have a 9 year old daughter and just yesterday I took her to the park fishing and she noticed 6-7 drake mallards all mating 1 hen. She asked me what they were doing to here and why they were being so mean. Instead of telling her about the birds and the bees, just yet I just laughed it off and said I don't know. that's an example of "if ever" 1 Quote
Mr_Scrogg Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Ill just start letting my son hold all the big fish I catch. He is 9 years old, but way small for his size. Make anything look like a tank! 3lb 10oz from Grand last weekend. Looks bigger if yoy ask me. Quote
BadBassWV Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 I agree That fish looks bigger, are you sure you didn't photo shop it. LOL, LOL Quote
Mr_Scrogg Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 I starved my son for YEARS and put a big book on his head for this one photo!! Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I starved my son for YEARS and put a big book on his head for this one photo!! Lol Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I'm also fascinated by trolls and just read an article about their psychology. i've seen the same study referenced by many different groups b/c every online community is effected by 'them' (Machiavellian sadists): http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/online-trolls-are-psychopaths-and-sadists-psychologists-claim-9134396.html. Quote
OK Bass Hunter Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 This is definately real.jpg A-Jay Can you teach me how to make a fish hover a over your fingers like that? 1 Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Can you teach me how to make a fish hover a over your fingers like that? +1 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted June 9, 2014 Super User Posted June 9, 2014 And how do you get the bass to hold its mouth open like that....lol. Hootie Quote
Super User RoLo Posted June 9, 2014 Super User Posted June 9, 2014 And how do you get the bass to hold its mouth open like that....lol. Hootie Whisper 'sweet nothings' in its ear Quote
Brian Needham Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 wow....... I haven't been around for a few days ............... I guess I got some catching up to do!!! Quote
DropTheBass Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 This happens a lot especially around those who do not fish. I think the reason why peers think anything they perceive as skeptical as Photoshopped is that so many pictures online are Photoshopped these days that it makes it difficult to discern what is Photoshopped from what is legitimate. Like you, Glenn, it bugs me whenever someone questions the validity of my catch. Such comments discredits my accomplishments. I agree, they should take their false accusations elsewhere. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted June 9, 2014 Super User Posted June 9, 2014 Check out my PB smallie. Jeff 1 Quote
5 Dollar Fishing Game Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Check out my PB smallie. Jeff Best photoshop ever!!!! 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted June 9, 2014 Super User Posted June 9, 2014 Check out my PB smallie. Jeff More blue cooler love. 1 Quote
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