Rage Rig???

[Big-O]

 I believe that the Rage Rig article doesn't state that a RageTail bait is necessary to be used when Rage Rigging... And over the years, I've made it extremely clear that most ANY soft plastic (and especially those which are normally T-Rigged, C-Rigged or rigged weightless) can be fished Rage Rigged, with emphasis on the high action soft plastics being more effective in most situations, IMO.

"Keel weighting Hooks"  in the distant past were not termed Swimbait hooks as they are today, because neither the hook or the swimbait baitfish style plastics were being produced or utilized at that time. As far as the "Swimbait" hook being the style of the hook used for todays soft plastic swimbaits, this isn't called a SWIMBAIT RIG, as swimbaits are used with any and all styles of hooks ie trebles etc. and come in any and all sizes.

Fishing terms and lingo regarding rigs came from styles of hooking and weighting systems to present baits. As with T-rigs, C-rigs etc., any variety of hooks styles and/or weights can be used, but the individual term and RIG reflects or designates the basic hook and weight position, line attachment, use etc.

I started adding split shot and elongated tag end line weights (squeeze weights) to the belly of the hook many years ago to improve my opportunities in certain conditions to change the fall profile with standard soft plastic worms, creatures etc, which allowed me to catch more fish. This style of rigging is what is now termed Rage Rig and not necessarily fished to SWIM the bait through the variety of depths in the water column, but more over allowing the bait to fall more horizontally through the water column and bottom bump, allowing the bait to maintain the horizontal profile throughout, whether being dragged, jumped, bumped etc. This rig provides less snags in any and all types of bottom structure including grass which allows us to fish the different types of structure more thoroughly and as slow or quickly as the fish tell us they want. Hope that helps and answers a few questions
 

[TorqueConverter]

 I believe that the Rage Rig article doesn't state that a RageTail bait is necessary to be used when Rage Rigging... And over the years, I've made it extremely clear that most ANY soft plastic (and especially those which are normally T-Rigged, C-Rigged or rigged weightless) can be fished Rage Rigged, with emphasis on the high action soft plastics being more effective in most situations, IMO.

"Keel weighting Hooks"  in the distant past were not termed Swimbait hooks as they are today, because neither the hook or the swimbait baitfish style plastics were being produced or utilized at that time. As far as the "Swimbait" hook being the style of the hook used for todays soft plastic swimbaits, this isn't called a SWIMBAIT RIG, as swimbaits are used with any and all styles of hooks ie trebles etc. and come in any and all sizes.

Fishing terms and lingo regarding rigs came from styles of hooking and weighting systems to present baits. As with T-rigs, C-rigs etc., any variety of hooks styles and/or weights can be used, but the individual term and RIG reflects or designates the basic hook and weight position, line attachment, use etc.

I started adding split shot and elongated tag end line weights (squeeze weights) to the belly of the hook many years ago to improve my opportunities in certain conditions to change the fall profile with standard soft plastic worms, creatures etc, which allowed me to catch more fish. This style of rigging is what is now termed Rage Rig and not necessarily fished to SWIM the bait through the variety of depths in the water column, but more over allowing the bait to fall more horizontally through the water column and bottom bump, allowing the bait to maintain the horizontal profile throughout, whether being dragged, jumped, bumped etc. This rig provides less snags in any and all types of bottom structure including grass which allows us to fish the different types of structure more thoroughly and as slow or quickly as the fish tell us they want. Hope that helps and answers a few questions

 

 

So the rage rig predates both the factory produced keel weighted hooks, the Rage Tail brand soft plastics, can be applied to any soft plastic and it is merely coincidence that "swimbait hooks" and Rage Tail plastics are being used today?  If so, then I'm wrong, it's a legit rig and swimbait hooks paired with rage tails are being used out of convenience.   

 

I'm curious about where the "rage" in rage rig stems from.  Were you fishing your unnamed rig one day on a Rage Tail plastic and it dawned on you?  How upset does hook companies making money off your idea of keel weighted hooks make you?     

[Big-O]

How upset does hook companies making money off your idea of keel weighted hooks make you?     

 

It doesn't and I have no idea as to others who may have been as OCD as myself and could have been doing the same as I... But I am happy that I don't have to pinch weights on the belly of the hook any longer

 

As to your thought "swimbait hooks paired with rage tails are being used out of convenience"... I would have to say that they're being used out of preference.

 

Where you mention "the rage rig predates both the factory produced keel weighted hooks, the Rage Tail brand soft plastics"... Not sure what is meant here but the Rage Rig name was coined at a previous BR Roadtrip when others saw it's effectiveness by one of my non boaters named STEEZY. It was the culmination of from several previous years of my discussing the use and benefits of this Rig on the Forum. Steezy needed a ride to the Roadtrip and messaged me for assistance. During our travel, he shared with me that he wasn't a very experienced fisherman and asked for advice on what may give him the best opportunity to catch fish regularly regardless of who he fished with. I knew there would be a good shallow bite there and gave him several packs of Summer Craw Rage Craws along with the keel weighted hooks I had been using, then told him how I'd fish it and "Don't put it down"... He put a thrashin on us each and every day regardless of the boat he was in... Great story and Great guy, in fact we were calling it the STEEZY RIG after that       

[rippin-lips]

The guy clearly just likes to stir up stuff. He was downing rage products in another thread saying that they're too soft and blah blah blah. Myself just picked up another 12 packs of craws the other day. Keep on producing awesome products Big-O

[TorqueConverter]

It doesn't and I have no idea as to others who may have been as OCD as myself and could have been doing the same as I... But I am happy that I don't have to pinch weights on the belly of the hook any longer

 

As to your thought "swimbait hooks paired with rage tails are being used out of convenience"... I would have to say that they're being used out of preference.

 

Where you mention "the rage rig predates both the factory produced keel weighted hooks, the Rage Tail brand soft plastics"... Not sure what is meant here but the Rage Rig name was coined at a previous BR Roadtrip when others saw it's effectiveness by one of my non boaters named STEEZY. It was the culmination of from several previous years of my discussing the use and benefits of this Rig on the Forum. Steezy needed a ride to the Roadtrip and messaged me for assistance. During our travel, he shared with me that he wasn't a very experienced fisherman and asked for advice on what may give him the best opportunity to catch fish regularly regardless of who he fished with. I knew there would be a good shallow bite there and gave him several packs of Summer Craw Rage Craws along with the keel weighted hooks I had been using, then told him how I'd fish it and "Don't put it down"... He put a thrashin on us each and every day regardless of the boat he was in... Great story and Great guy, in fact we were calling it the STEEZY RIG after that       

 

Great story.  I read an article a while ago about the use of a bell sinker on the hook shank and it was briefly mentioned again in this thread.  Is this something you are familiar with and is it considered part of the rage rig? 

 

The guy clearly just likes to stir up stuff. He was downing rage products in another thread saying that they're too soft and blah blah blah. Myself just picked up another 12 packs of craws the other day. Keep on producing awesome products Big-O

 

You are mistaken,

[Big-O]

Great story.  I read an article a while ago about the use of a bell sinker on the hook shank and it was briefly mentioned again in this thread.  Is this something you are familiar with and is it considered part of the rage rig?

 

Heard of that as well but haven't ckd it out or viewed it's application???  

[jtharris3]

Rage rig = a swimbait hook.  Calling a swimbait hook a "rage rig" is more than a bit silly and so is arguing about it over the internet when I come of think of it.       

 

So they call it a rage rig, what's the big deal??

[jtharris3]

 

 

One does not simply take a hook and stick a particular name brand of plastic on it and call it a new rig type.  This is not to be tolerated.  Believe it or not, we have standards.

 

LOL....are you serious? It's just fishing dude! Lighten up!

[tcbass]

I believe that the Rage Rig article doesn't state that a RageTail bait is necessary to be used when Rage Rigging... And over the years, I've made it extremely clear that most ANY soft plastic (and especially those which are normally T-Rigged, C-Rigged or rigged weightless) can be fished Rage Rigged, with emphasis on the high action soft plastics being more effective in most situations, IMO.

"Keel weighting Hooks" in the distant past were not termed Swimbait hooks as they are today, because neither the hook or the swimbait baitfish style plastics were being produced or utilized at that time. As far as the "Swimbait" hook being the style of the hook used for todays soft plastic swimbaits, this isn't called a SWIMBAIT RIG, as swimbaits are used with any and all styles of hooks ie trebles etc. and come in any and all sizes.

Fishing terms and lingo regarding rigs came from styles of hooking and weighting systems to present baits. As with T-rigs, C-rigs etc., any variety of hooks styles and/or weights can be used, but the individual term and RIG reflects or designates the basic hook and weight position, line attachment, use etc.

I started adding split shot and elongated tag end line weights (squeeze weights) to the belly of the hook many years ago to improve my opportunities in certain conditions to change the fall profile with standard soft plastic worms, creatures etc, which allowed me to catch more fish. This style of rigging is what is now termed Rage Rig and not necessarily fished to SWIM the bait through the variety of depths in the water column, but more over allowing the bait to fall more horizontally through the water column and bottom bump, allowing the bait to maintain the horizontal profile throughout, whether being dragged, jumped, bumped etc. This rig provides less snags in any and all types of bottom structure including grass which allows us to fish the different types of structure more thoroughly and as slow or quickly as the fish tell us they want. Hope that helps and answers a few questions

Thanks for the info!

I love Ragetail products and the Ragetail Toad was shown to me by a friend and it is what got me into bass fishing after my entire life of fishing for everything under the sun.

In your honor Big O, I will go buy some new weighted hooks and some Ragetail plastics at Cabelas tomorrow and try a Rage Rig for the first time when I go fishing with my friend. Hopefully I can get him into some fish!

[gnuisance]

I agree with Torque Converter. I think it is a bit presumptuous to attach a brand name to a fairly basic type of rigging / terminal tackle. The fact that Rage Tail is a sponsor here only muddies the water.

[Catch and Grease]

This thread was like almost a month old and somebody started the argument again.

[F14A-B]

I have caught a few fish on a RAGE RIG...in and around Muddied water.....

[MarkH024]

One does not simply take a hook and stick a particular name brand of plastic on it and call it a new rig type.  This is not to be tolerated.  Believe it or not, we have standards.

When you say "WE" who do you speak for and the standards you're implying?  I certainly hope you're not referencing the BR community. 

[Choporoz]

While I think it's silly for this to have gotten a little testy, I will say that I don't disagree with Torque.  The term 'rage-rigged' was much more confusing to me than 'weighted hook' or something more descriptive.  I also had the sense that the term was coined by Rage baits and thrust on this community by RW and others - possibly sacrificing clarity for some association with a specific brand. 

 

I don't see it as a big deal at all - and will welcome the term if it achieves some sort of mass acceptance, but for now, if I say 'rage-rigged' to any other fisherman or tackle merchant that isn't glued to BR, I get strange looks and a need to clarify what could have been clear by saying 'weighted hook' in the first place. 

[Boomer_bassin]

What is a good size weighted hook to start with for this rig?

[F14A-B]

I simply Beg to Differ , the Term Rage Rig was not Thrust upon me.

[Amarley]

Whatever you do, do not fish a rage craw on a shaky head, fish WILL NOT bite it, I promise!

[crazyjoeclemens]

I will admit that the term "rage rig" had me thinking there was much more to the presentation.  However, seeing that it's no more than a keel weighted hook does not offend me in any way.  As a matter of fact, I will probably put one together with the non-rage products I already have and fish it just the same.  When I show it to my fishing buddies, I'll probably still call it the Rage Rig, because whoever came up with it has the right to call it whatever they like.  I might have gone with "Purple Unicorn Rig," but, then again, Rage Rig is much more simple...

[Tiller]

This has been my goto rig this year. Does not neccesarily have to be a Rage bait. They skip well too.

 

 

 

Who makes this craw? 

 

Thanks,

 

Joe

[Mr_Scrogg]

That kinda looks like a craw I picked up at Grand. What I got was called "The Same Thing" or something like that. $2.50/pack

[tcbass]

The rage rig consists of texas rigged the bait /w a weighted swimbait type hook.

 

What size hooks are you guys using with this?

[gnuisance]

What size hooks are you guys using with this?

 

 I like a 4/0 1/4 oz

[iabass8]

What size hooks are you guys using with this?

usually 1/4oz 4/0.

[tcbass]

Wha

usually 1/4oz 4/0.

  

I like a 4/0 1/4 oz

What brand hook guys?

I'm not finding ones that are 4/0 and 1/4 oz.

[tcbass]

Wha  

What brand hook guys?

I'm not finding ones that are 4/0 and 1/4 oz.

Anyone know?