Super User tcbass Posted May 30, 2014 Super User Posted May 30, 2014 I've noticed the Senko has it's own stickies so it must be white the conversation starter. Is the Gary Yamamoto Senko one of the most revolutionary lures of all time and are there any other lures as revolutionary? Quote
edfitzvb Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Original Rapala floaters Mann's Jelly Worms   to name two. Any of the early wooden lures from Heddon Quote
Tony L. Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 I would venture to say that whoever came up with the first safety-pin style spinnerbait probably rocked the bot quite a bit. I imagine that people thought that it looked pretty ridiculous when it came out. Now they are just part of everyone's arsenal. Good question, I'm going to be thinking of other ones all day now! Quote
primetime Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 I would say Creme Scoundrel worms, Mr. Twister Curly Tail Grubs and Worms,Manns Jelly Worms or Trick worms, and Lunker CIty's Sluggo is responsible for all the Flukes and Senkos...I feel as though Senkos are losing a bit of their luster just like what happened to Culprit Ribbon Tails, Berkley Powerbait (Now Gulp, Trigger X, Biodegradeable baits are all the saltwater guys use and I must say Gulp and Powerbait is still a good choice for any plastics fishing... Â I will give the Banjo Minnow some Cred as well and I am being serious.....Just look at all the segmented swimbaits on the market both hard and soft...I had a buddy who ordered the Banjo Minnows back in the day, and we all laughed at him (that was when the braid looked and felt like thick bakers string), but he did get a few good fish.....I was a 7.5" Berkley Powerbait Power Worm guy for years and before that it was nothing but Culprits in 6", then as a kid, Creme Scoundrel worms with the Helicopter blades, lil fishie (jointed swimbait again) and of course......Mepps Spinners, Comet Minnows.....MR. Twister 6" Twister tails in black with chart tail, and Manns Augertails and regular worms in strawberry or blueberry....I still throw Manns worms as a good part of my plastics fishing, and if I look for a ribbon Tail, its either Powerbait, Gulp, Culprit, or Charlies....and only Motor oil chart with Charlies worms, as they are still the best quality in my opinion for a bouyant worm...... Â I have looked back at old books on tackle and lures while at the library, and usually I find lures that were made in the 60's-70's that are identical to new models...I found some Luck E strike lures that had the same lip as a scatter rap a few months ago,same action, only built much better here in America in my opinion...I like all the old wood topwater lures, I sand them down, add new trebles,and give the fish a new look.....Banjo Minnow-Lake Fork Magic Swimmer-Spro,Sebile,Storm,Live Target should all thank that commercial. Â I wonder if we will ever look back at the LED Blaze Lures like some of the old stuff...I liked how Panther Martin brought back Bill Plummers super Frog Last year, only problem was it still was not balanced right.....Just think, in Depression, guys used Flies, poppers, streamers, then a Spoon was IT for awhile...Bass Pro now compared to 20 years ago is crazy. I think Rage Tail has Surpassed Yamamoto as far as popularity, or Strike King I should say..... Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted May 30, 2014 Super User Posted May 30, 2014 Yea, the list will be interesting... Idk, about 77 Mr. Twister came out with a Tube worm.. One color I used early was some shade of purple... Not much later Gitz it came out with a much shorter version.. 5 or so years ago... Gambler made a very similar tube worm called..The Big Sick! I have 3 left... I sure like the tube worm! Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted May 30, 2014 Super User Posted May 30, 2014 I agree with primetime about the jelly worms from Manns and the Lunker City Slug-o made by Herb Reed, that bait was responsible for soft jerkbaits in general but I believe the Senko is original and is not in the same category. I'll add to this list too, Bobby Garland's Gitzit is the original tube bait, Gene Larew made salt in plastic baits the norm with their salt craws. I've seen a ton of stuff come and go but there are some that are timeless, like the Rapala original floater, the Smithwick Devils Horse and even the Rogue is iconic and don't forget the Rapala Shad Rap, designed as a walleye bait it quickly proved itself to be a cold water killer and one of the best cranks to throw in the early spring. The Zara Spook is another timeless bait that has spawned other walking baits and it also has a few new upgraded versions as well as an original with the old hook hangers on it and believe it or not, there are a lot of anglers that like the original so much that Heddon keeps making it along with the super spook. Quote
einscodek Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 plastic worm spinnerbait  about all u ever need Quote
lmoore Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Chatterbait was a big one at one time too.  Creme's worms have to be up there, basically the first guy to make hand-poured plastics. If I remember right, there was actually a patent out on a rubber worm in the 1800's (!) but Creme was the first one to make a popular and successful model of one. Creme can take some small responsibility for those Senkos you mentioned. Quote
Christian M Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 The Jitterbug was pretty revolutionary classic that hasn't changed much & is still catching BIG fish Quote
Big Swimbait Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 I think the "beaver" style baits will be looked at that way in the future. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted May 30, 2014 Super User Posted May 30, 2014 I would have to say that the silicone jig skirt has had a very large impact on modern day fishing. Quote
Avalonjohn44 Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Top Water Frogs, both Soft Bodied and Soft Plastic. There have been floating frog baits for years but they were generally crap. Spro and Zoom created probably the most fun style of fishing I have ever had. (Maybe it wasn't spro and zoom, but they are the earliest versions of modern froggin' that I can think of.) Quote
Super User Raul Posted May 30, 2014 Super User Posted May 30, 2014 I've noticed the Senko has it's own stickies so it must be white the conversation starter. Is the Gary Yamamoto Senko one of the most revolutionary lures of all time and are there any other lures as revolutionary?  So after what you have read now you know that everything in your tacklebox is revolutionary.  Could I go out fishing and not even bother to use senkos ? oh yeah, I got straight tail worms, spinnerbaits, tubes, soft & hard jerkbaits ..... Quote
Super User Raul Posted May 30, 2014 Super User Posted May 30, 2014 Forgot to add, I do own senkos, purchased several bags in different colors maybe 8 years ago, well, none of those bags has less than 5 pieces left, some have 8 or 9, however I have caught a lot of fish with other baits. Yes, you can live without ever casting a senko and still catch fish. 1 Quote
primetime Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 After giving this topic some thought, and also reading some awesome answers...Rat L Trap...Then Frogs..But here is the best new thing which really isnt new, but was not available when I was younger...Good QualityBraid so you can actually Land the Fish that would crush the South Bend Weed Demon, or Moss Boss over the pads..I know braid was out before Nylon I believe, but I remember the first batches of Spider wire being terrible and expensive. I used Stren Dupont 8lb on spinning and 12lb on casting...Co-polymers are a huge breakthrough as it is nice to have that extra horsepower when it is windy and just not a good braid day...I know I get bit more flipping geen or white Hybrid in #15 or #20 than with green braid at times.... Â I agree the Senko is a game changer for sure, wacky rigging and then the entire line of terminal tackle..Also Drop Shot and Finesse fishing has increased the volume of soft baits and terminal tackle sold big time with Shaky Head jigs, Swivels, Fluoro, on and on... Â I would like to add a few lures that I could not live without and are true classics I will always have on deck. Â 1-Original Bomber Long A-Floating and Suspending-Cordell Red Fin at night as it is my favorite floating jerkbait to slow roll as the S wake is what makes the Red Fin still Relavant...The Johnson Silver Minnow weedless spoon in 1/2 oz. Gold with a 4'" White or Orange Grub is a great lure. Â 2- The Zara Spook, Devils Horse, Torpedo, and the Invention of the Mister Twister keeper Hook, hitchikers, weighted worm hooks was big...The Senko actually was huge as it morphed into finesse worms, wacky, drop shot, Shaky, Finesse, and that alone has accounted for a ton of money and new companies. Â The Chatterbait is the last big one for sure since the Senko, and it is never going away....Like Tubes, Sluggo's, and even Frogs are not always hot, but guys are always coming into the shop asking for Zman Hooks, chatterbaits for saltwater Now, and people are always easy to sell since it is probably the easiest lure to catch fish with and cover water without getting snagged.... Â Not sure what the Next big one is going to be...I see Hollow bellies died out in favor of the Sizmic shads or Keitech style or ez swimmer style, so Money Minnows and shadalicious are baits I rarely hear discussed....Rage Tail is advertising right, and strike King is making great baits and lures as well. I get asked for Strike King baits much more often than Yamamoto, plus it is hard to beat the Strike King Pricing for hardbaits with detail like that for a $5 bill or less if on sale... Â The Segmented swimbaits is not going well for Okuma-Savage and it is not taking off down South in Florida like I expected. I thought the Magic Swimmers,Kickin Sticks were here to stay, but now its the Square bill market for hardbaits....Pradco lures just do not get the respect they should, they are responsible for alot of all the best lures we fish today.... Â 3- The 2 Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted May 30, 2014 Super User Posted May 30, 2014 Original Lunker Lure - The original buzzbait Mr. Twister, original curly tail X - Rap Rapala Original Minnow Shad Rap Quote
sparky241 Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Na bill dances banjo minnows and those helicopter lures were :0 Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted May 30, 2014 Super User Posted May 30, 2014 Top Water Frogs, both Soft Bodied and Soft Plastic. There have been floating frog baits for years but they were generally crap. Spro and Zoom created probably the most fun style of fishing I have ever had. (Maybe it wasn't spro and zoom, but they are the earliest versions of modern froggin' that I can think of.)  You must be pretty young, the soft hollow body frogs have been around for a long time before Spro even existed. The original hollow frog I believe is the Snag Proof frog, I'm not sure if it is the first but it may be the first mass produced frog. It had legs and then they made the Moss Master Tournament Frog with silicone strands for legs like all the other frogs have now. I still use the Moss Master Tournament Frog, to me it is very good and after buying and using the Spro Bronzeye frogs, I sold them to a friend and went back to snag proof, I like that frog better, I seem to get better hooks ups with it but it may just be the way I use it. Well it doesn't matter but I thought I'd give you some information to look up, in fact I have to look it up too as snag proof has been around since I've been bass fishing which began in 1979. Quote
Avalonjohn44 Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 You must be pretty young, the soft hollow body frogs have been around for a long time before Spro even existed. The original hollow frog I believe is the Snag Proof frog, I'm not sure if it is the first but it may be the first mass produced frog. It had legs and then they made the Moss Master Tournament Frog with silicone strands for legs like all the other frogs have now. I still use the Moss Master Tournament Frog, to me it is very good and after buying and using the Spro Bronzeye frogs, I sold them to a friend and went back to snag proof, I like that frog better, I seem to get better hooks ups with it but it may just be the way I use it. Well it doesn't matter but I thought I'd give you some information to look up, in fact I have to look it up too as snag proof has been around since I've been bass fishing which began in 1979.  Dude, you skipped over the entire context of my post. I acknowledged there were older baits. I gave my opinion on them. I also said 'MODERN froggin'... Context is key my friend. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted May 31, 2014 Super User Posted May 31, 2014 I think it is a good question. I think there has been, and will continue to be innovative baits that change the way we fish. The Senko is certainly one of those. As Raul said not everyone uses them, but every serious bass fisherman probably has some. There has been many others already mentioned. I believe the chatterbait and A-Rig are in the same class in recent usage. Free-swinging jig heads, shakeyheads, squarebills, and paddle tail soft plastics also make MY list. They may not be "revolutionary" but give  another option that will sometimes out-produce anything else. Quote
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