CDMeyer Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 This past weekend I was out for 9 hours Sunday..... after trail and error I final got a solid pattern down. The bass were back in Bays feeding on the bluegill spawning, I was throwing a BPS Humping Toad on a 4/0 Wide Gap VMC Fast Grip Hook. I was having strikes every 5 cast (some were bluegill but I did not count them) I caught two bass. Every time I set the hook I just jerked the bait right back at the boat, so I tried waiting to set the hook and this did not work either all it did was keep the hook from coming at my face. I should have caught 55 bass, I could see them hit and swim away on some occasion and it was AWFUL!!!!! I was wondering if you guys could help this weekend will be the same weather and I feel that this pattern will work again, but not my question is; What am I doing wrong, do you guys having any advice, hooks, hook-set..... I will take any advice Sorry for this being so long but I appreciate all the help I can Get Thank you and GOD BLESS Quote
KYBassin' Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 The only 2 things that come to mind are downsize and trailer hook. Quote
SmokeRise1 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 You could try bending the hook points to open them up a bit. The frogs will not be as weedless, but your hookup ratio will get better. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted May 27, 2014 Super User Posted May 27, 2014 Mid to late Saturday afternoon I had 2 bass on 5 or 6 frog strikes. Early Sunday morning I had 6 fish on 7 or 8 strikes. Mid-day Monday, I had zero hook-ups on over a dozen strikes. Same frog, same rod/reel/line. Checked hook shapes and points. All good. I just think that during different periods, the bass hit the frog a little differently. Sort of a more tentative- feeler hit during higher sun. When feeding aggressively at dawn, I couldn't keep them off the hook. I know this doesn't help you too much, but keep doing what your doing and you'll start hooking them. Sometimes, I think the fish just slap the frog in such a way that hooking just isn't happening. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted May 27, 2014 Super User Posted May 27, 2014 This past weekend I was out for 9 hours Sunday..... after trail and error I final got a solid pattern down. The bass were back in Bays feeding on the bluegill spawning, I was throwing a BPS Humping Toad on a 4/0 Wide Gap VMC Fast Grip Hook. I was having strikes every 5 cast (some were bluegill but I did not count them) I caught two bass. Every time I set the hook I just jerked the bait right back at the boat, so I tried waiting to set the hook and this did not work either all it did was keep the hook from coming at my face. I should have caught 55 bass, I could see them hit and swim away on some occasion and it was AWFUL!!!!! I was wondering if you guys could help this weekend will be the same weather and I feel that this pattern will work again, but not my question is; What am I doing wrong, do you guys having any advice, hooks, hook-set..... I will take any advice Sorry for this being so long but I appreciate all the help I can Get Thank you and GOD BLESS You identified they were hitting topwater moving baits, maybe switch up the bait a bit. Instead of a buzzing frog try a Zoom u-vibe worm. Spook, and fluke also come to mind. Or also slow it down and try a hollow body frof that stay in the strike zone a lot longer than a buzzing frog. Just my.02 2 Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted May 27, 2014 Super User Posted May 27, 2014 You identified they were hitting topwater moving baits, maybe switch up the bait a bit. Instead of a buzzing frog try a Zoom u-vibe worm. Spook, and fluke also come to mind. Or also slow it down and try a hollow body frof that stay in the strike zone a lot longer than a buzzing frog. Just my.02 Yep... What he said, except spook.. Assuming heavier vegetation 2 Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted May 27, 2014 Super User Posted May 27, 2014 Yep... What he said, except spook.. Assuming heavier vegetation That's true, the OP, didn't mention vegetation so I assumed the area was clear. Quote
CDMeyer Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 Yeah there is extreme vegetation, so I need weedless Quote
CDMeyer Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 You identified they were hitting topwater moving baits, maybe switch up the bait a bit. Instead of a buzzing frog try a Zoom u-vibe worm. Spook, and fluke also come to mind. Or also slow it down and try a hollow body frof that stay in the strike zone a lot longer than a buzzing frog. Just my.02 This was a lot of help thank you, I will try that this weekend Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted May 27, 2014 Super User Posted May 27, 2014 Yeah there is extreme vegetation, so I need weedless Lol... minus the spook comment. 1 Quote
einscodek Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 I assume yer using braid and are using a rod with good backbone? Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted May 27, 2014 Global Moderator Posted May 27, 2014 Sometimes a bass will just try to stun it instead of chopping down on it. When that happens you wont catch em because when they do that their mouth is closed. Ever see a bass come completely out of the water and leap frog the frog and end up on the other side without ever touching it?? That my friend will want you call home to Mama! Mike Quote
Avalonjohn44 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Get your hands on some Uncle Josh Sizmic Toad Jr. baits, you can still find them on overstock or eBay... They are topwater frog baits that are shorter (3.25inches) and slimmer than the usually bulkier baits. When the fish are just playing with the frogs instead of hitting them hard, I've found downsizing to this little frog will help a lot. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted May 27, 2014 Super User Posted May 27, 2014 Throw a weightless stick bait back at the fish. 1 Quote
grumpydog Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 The one thing I have found to improve hookup on topwater is to change the rod angle on your set. a sharp sideways hookset seems to work better (for me) than my normal upward sweep. Not sure why, and I dont spend much time wondering, it just works, so I do it. Quote
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